reftex-citation doesn't ask for pages

reftex-citation doesn't ask for pages

[Sven Bretfeld]

Hello

I have a little problem here. Possibly I have misunderstood
something. I've made my own citation-format to make reftex work
together with biblatex:

(setq reftex-cite-format
  '((?\C-m . "\\cite[]{%l}")
   (?t    . "\\textcite[]{%l}")
   (?p    . "\\parencite[]{%l}")
   (?o    . "\\citepr[]{%l}")
   (?n    . "\\nocite{%l}")))
(setq reftex-cite-prompt-optional-args t)

I was thinking the last line makes reftex ask for the page number
after hitting C-c [, but it doesn't work. After asking me for the
cite-key, reftex inserts the cite-command with empty [], so that I
have to jump back to insert the page number manually. It's the same
when I define the cite-format with two pairs of braces.

What have I done wrong?

Thanks for help
Sven

Re: reftex-citation doesn't ask for pages

[Ralf Angeli]

* Sven Bretfeld (2007-05-20) writes:

> (setq reftex-cite-prompt-optional-args t)
>
> I was thinking the last line makes reftex ask for the page number
> after hitting C-c [, but it doesn't work. After asking me for the
> cite-key, reftex inserts the cite-command with empty [], so that I
> have to jump back to insert the page number manually. It's the same
> when I define the cite-format with two pairs of braces.
>
> What have I done wrong?

You forgot to include information about which versions of Emacs and
RefTeX you are using.  FWIW, your code is working fine with CVS Emacs
and RefTeX 4.32.

-- 
Ralf

Re: reftex-citation doesn't ask for pages

[Sven Bretfeld]

On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 10:24:23PM +0200, Ralf Angeli wrote:
> * Sven Bretfeld (2007-05-20) writes:
> 
> > (setq reftex-cite-prompt-optional-args t)
> >
> > I was thinking the last line makes reftex ask for the page number
> > after hitting C-c [, but it doesn't work. After asking me for the
> > cite-key, reftex inserts the cite-command with empty [], so that I
> > have to jump back to insert the page number manually. It's the same
> > when I define the cite-format with two pairs of braces.
> >
> > What have I done wrong?
> 
> You forgot to include information about which versions of Emacs and
> RefTeX you are using.  FWIW, your code is working fine with CVS Emacs
> and RefTeX 4.32.

Oh, I'm sorry. That might already be the explanation of the problem. I
have Emacs 21.4.1 from the main repository of Debian Etch. The
included Reftex version seems to be 4.00.

Is there a chance to get what I want with this version?

Thanks,
Sven

Re: reftex-citation doesn't ask for pages

[Sven Bretfeld]

On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 12:47:16AM +0200, Sven Bretfeld wrote:
> The included Reftex version seems to be 4.00.

Correction, it's version 4.15.

> Is there a chance to get what I want with this version?
> 
> Thanks,
> Sven
> 
> 
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Re: reftex-citation doesn't ask for pages

[Ralf Angeli]

* Sven Bretfeld (2007-05-21) writes:

> On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 12:47:16AM +0200, Sven Bretfeld wrote:
>> The included Reftex version seems to be 4.00.
>
> Correction, it's version 4.15.
>
>> Is there a chance to get what I want with this version?

I don't think so, since that version does not even include
`reftex-cite-prompt-optional-args' as a variable.  Didn't you use the
documentation which was made for your particular version?  It is
accessible with `C-h i d m reftex RET'.

-- 
Ralf

Re: reftex-citation doesn't ask for pages

[Sven Bretfeld]

Hi Ralf

On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 08:03:43AM +0200, Ralf Angeli wrote:
> I don't think so, since that version does not even include
> `reftex-cite-prompt-optional-args' as a variable.  Didn't you use the
> documentation which was made for your particular version?  It is
> accessible with `C-h i d m reftex RET'.

You know, there is this licence problem with Debian and the Emacs
documentation. I just came to know that the info files are
available from the unfree repository. Before, I downloaded the reftex
documentation from the project's homepage. Unfortunately, I have
caught the wrong one.

I think I will download reftex from CVS. Do you know if it's possible
to install the package in a local home folder, altough an older of the
same package version is already installed in the system wide
site-lisp? Or would it be better to remove (or rename) the reftex
folder in /usr/share/...?

Thanks for the Infos

Sven

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Re: reftex-citation doesn't ask for pages

[Seweryn Kokot]

Sven Bretfeld <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch> writes:

> Hi Ralf
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 08:03:43AM +0200, Ralf Angeli wrote:
>> I don't think so, since that version does not even include
>> `reftex-cite-prompt-optional-args' as a variable.  Didn't you use the
>> documentation which was made for your particular version?  It is
>> accessible with `C-h i d m reftex RET'.
>
> You know, there is this licence problem with Debian and the Emacs
> documentation. I just came to know that the info files are
> available from the unfree repository. Before, I downloaded the reftex
> documentation from the project's homepage. Unfortunately, I have
> caught the wrong one.
>
> I think I will download reftex from CVS. Do you know if it's possible
> to install the package in a local home folder, altough an older of the
> same package version is already installed in the system wide
> site-lisp? Or would it be better to remove (or rename) the reftex
> folder in /usr/share/...?

Another possibility is to get the weekly snapshot, see
http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsCvsAndDebian
for details. The mainainter is the same but now because of license
problem, he builds emacs-snapshot packages out of debian. 

regards,
Seweryn Kokot

Re: reftex-citation doesn't ask for pages

[Gernot Hassenpflug]

Sven Bretfeld <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch> writes:

> Hi Ralf
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 08:03:43AM +0200, Ralf Angeli wrote:
>> I don't think so, since that version does not even include
>> `reftex-cite-prompt-optional-args' as a variable.  Didn't you use the
>> documentation which was made for your particular version?  It is
>> accessible with `C-h i d m reftex RET'.
>
> You know, there is this licence problem with Debian and the Emacs
> documentation. I just came to know that the info files are
> available from the unfree repository. Before, I downloaded the reftex
> documentation from the project's homepage. Unfortunately, I have
> caught the wrong one.
>
> I think I will download reftex from CVS. Do you know if it's possible
> to install the package in a local home folder, altough an older of the
> same package version is already installed in the system wide
> site-lisp? Or would it be better to remove (or rename) the reftex
> folder in /usr/share/...?
>
> Thanks for the Infos

Hi, this is my info, from current emacs-snapshot-gtk for GNU/linux
Debian unstable for i386 architecture. Probably you will get it also
if you install.

,----
| Emacs is the extensible, customizable, self-documenting real-time
| display editor.  This Info file describes how to edit with Emacs and
| some of how to customize it; it corresponds to GNU Emacs version
| 22.0.95.
`----

My reftex version there, mmm, not given by the info file (maybe it
should be? like emacs and gnus say... if so, I might submit a bug
report), no reftex-* commands until I load the module usinga .tex
file, then I get

,----
| reftex-version is a variable defined in `reftex.el'.
| Its value is 
| "RefTeX version 4.31"
`----

Looks good. No need to download and install. If you really do need to
add local stuff to replace built-in versions, probably a reasonable
way is as follows:

1. make a .emacs-<your package> file and put it in a directory that
you back up.

2. in that file, modify the load-path emacs uses (prepend). OK, I
suspect there are better ways.

3. load that file from the .emacs (.emacs.el{c}) local startup file.

Hope I don't incur too much wrath for that idea, but if so, the only
stupid question is the one not asked :-)
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Re: reftex-citation doesn't ask for pages

[Ralf Angeli]

* Sven Bretfeld (2007-05-21) writes:

> I think I will download reftex from CVS.

There is a standalone release (4.32 at the moment) as well.  See
<URL:http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/reftex.html>.  So no need to
tinker with CVS.

> Do you know if it's possible
> to install the package in a local home folder, altough an older of the
> same package version is already installed in the system wide
> site-lisp? Or would it be better to remove (or rename) the reftex
> folder in /usr/share/...?

Personally I'm actually using a CVS RefTeX installed in /usr/local as a
replacement for the one which comes with Emacs without deleting or
renaming anything.

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Ralf