From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs 21 or snapshot? Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 15:28:42 +0200 Organization: GNU's Not UNIX! Message-ID: <200705051328.l45DSgOP006730@localhost.localdomain> References: <133h07p3lok86ee@corp.supernews.com> <85ejly2rre.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85lkg5y28l.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: Xavier Maillard NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178375812 23722 80.91.229.12 (5 May 2007 14:36:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 14:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 05 16:36:51 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HkLNP-0002ou-GH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 16:36:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HkLU9-000694-FE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 10:43:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HkLTo-0005wf-Cc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 10:43:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HkLTm-0005wI-M4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 10:43:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HkLTm-0005wF-Im for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 10:43:22 -0400 Original-Received: from master.uucpssh.org ([193.218.105.66]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HkLMz-0001i0-JL; Sat, 05 May 2007 10:36:21 -0400 Original-Received: by master.uucpssh.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 708275A136; Sat, 5 May 2007 16:33:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:1001@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l45DSinS006733; Sat, 5 May 2007 15:28:44 +0200 Original-Received: (from zedek@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l45DSgOP006730; Sat, 5 May 2007 15:28:42 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: zedek set sender to xma@gnu.org using -f In-reply-to: <85lkg5y28l.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Fri, 04 May 2007 00:24:42 +0200) User-Agent: Rmail in GNU Emacs 23.0.51.1 on GNU/Linux Jabber-ID: zedek@im.lolica.org X-uucpssh: Found to be clean X-uucpssh-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.398, required 4.6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.00, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_HELO_PASS -0.00) X-uucpssh-From: xma@gnu.org X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43739 Archived-At: Xavier Maillard writes: > Xavier Maillard writes: > > > Hi Mark, > > > > As someone wishing to learn Emacs would you recommend I > > install Emacs 21 or Emacs-snapshot? > > > > You'd better stick with the current stable aka GNU Emacs 21.4 > > It is so much worse in utf-8 support alone that I wonder what you base > that recommendation on. > > Snapshot is a development version whereas GNU Emacs 21 is a > *stable* version. Which does not change the fact that the snapshots have been quite better and more solid than the "stable" version for years now. In particular now that snapshots are released as "pretest" releases. For a newbie, I do not see any benefit in Pre-testing a piece of software he does not know at all. Though I concede pretest and/or even the CVS version are really good for experienced users or people with already some GNU Emacs basics. Can you point to any area, even a single one, where the supposed "stability" of Emacs 21.4 leads to better results than, say, the pretest 22.0.99? I won't be able to do that since I never ever had a problem with GNU Emacs 21.x on a GNU/linux platform. Things are quite different on Hurd though. Xavier