From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Neon Absentius Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Using autofill./ Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:26:10 +0000 Message-ID: <20051005142610.GD992@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> References: <86hdbx427w.fsf@flame.pc> <868xx86prr.fsf@flame.pc> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1128522684 21600 80.91.229.2 (5 Oct 2005 14:31:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 05 16:31:21 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ENAH2-0006bc-Uy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:29:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ENAFX-00032T-PZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 10:28:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ENAEN-0002h8-LL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 10:26:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ENAEL-0002gR-LK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 10:26:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ENAEL-0002gK-CU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 10:26:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.94.73.21] (helo=sdf.lonestar.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ENAEJ-0005z1-Kj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 10:26:48 -0400 Original-Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:absent@ukato.freeshell.org [192.94.73.7]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j95EQAoY014740 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:26:10 GMT Original-Received: (from absent@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.8/Submit) id j95EQAW5025231 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:26:10 GMT Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: Neon Absentius , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <868xx86prr.fsf@flame.pc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:29940 Archived-At: On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 04:45:44PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Neon Absentius writes: > >On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 08:32:51PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >> you can set the fill-column to its new value (i.e. 40) and > >> refill the paragraph by hitting M-q just once: > >> > >> * This is a test message. This is a test > >> message. This is a test message.This is a > >> test message. This is a test message. This > >> is a test message. This is a test > >> message. This is a test message. ^^^^^^^^ > >> ^^^^^^^^ > > > > Before you start giving advice on filling don't you think that you > > should first fix yours? You might want to have a look at the > > variable "sentence-end-double-space" for example. > > In what ways does my personal preference for the current setting of > sentence-end-double-space affect the correctness or the usefulness of > the advice about filling? In no way. Your advice was *irrelevant* to what the OP asked. I would also say that to the degree that your answer did not really solve the problem it was also wrong. And of course, the value of the variable "sentence-end-double-space" doesn't affect the validity of any of those statements. What it does affect however is the filling behaviour of emacs. Obviously the paragraph I quoted is not filled correctly. As I tried to indicate -- perhaps overestimating your power of observation -- the underlined word ("message") in the last line actually fits in the previous line without exceeding the value of fill-column. At a meta-level, I do think that the fact that the filling behaviour of your copy of emacs is *obviously* not optimal, gives an indication of the usefulnes of your advice on the filling behaviour of emacs. Don't you? > > Keep the irony to yourself the next time, thanks... > No, thank you. I'd rather share. -- Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this--this (she chuckles slightly) is working very well for them. -- Barbara Bush, about the refugees from New Orleans.