From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Ehud Karni" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Best way to run on Windows XP Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:05:43 +0300 Organization: Mivtach-Simon Insurance agencies Message-ID: <200507251405.j6PE5hf2022073@beta.mvs.co.il> References: <1122221022.525785.237790@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: ehud@unix.mvs.co.il NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-8-i Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1122300972 2821 80.91.229.2 (25 Jul 2005 14:16:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 25 16:16:00 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dx3jA-00078A-DI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:14:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dx3fK-0004Fn-Cz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:10:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dx3eH-00049I-6D for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:09:42 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dx3eC-00047Y-6x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:09:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dx3eB-00047H-Sw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:09:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [193.16.147.12] (helo=unix.mvs.co.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dx3ld-0004Ev-87; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:17:18 -0400 Original-Received: from beta.mvs.co.il (beta [10.253.0.3]) by unix.mvs.co.il (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j6PE5jtv014980 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:05:45 +0300 Original-Received: from beta.mvs.co.il (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.mvs.co.il (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6PE5iJt022076 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:05:44 +0300 Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by beta.mvs.co.il (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j6PE5hf2022073; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:05:43 +0300 Original-To: "Chris Lott" , "Jason Rumney" , "Eli Zaretskii" , "Drew Adams" In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Emacs 21.3.1 rmail (send-msg 1.108) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:28155 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:28155 On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:51:40 +0100, Jason Rumney wrote: > > Chris Lott writes: > > > Is the "best" way to run emacs on Windows XP to use the Native XP build > > or the Cygwin? By "best" I mean: stable, able to run elisp code from > > emacs.sources, and able to effectively use external tools like grep, > > diff, etc... ? > > If you are only using Cygwin tools, then Cygwin might be better in > some respects, but if that is the case, why use Windows at all? > > For any other case, I'd have to say the native build for the following > reasons. > > Cygwin Emacs does not appear to be regularly maintained. Maybe the > original port was good enough that it doesn't need anyone maintaining > it, but I doubt it. Cygwin Emacs is VERY well maintained by Joe Buehler. He did a superb job, including the unexec part. His changes are included in the main trunk, so compiling Emacs from CVS in Cygwin works OOTB. I was working with NTEmacs and switched to the Cygwin Emacs because of two reasons: 1. You have the full UNIX toolset with real POSIX support (e.g. same paths, env vars with lower case letters). 2. Some things that were included in UNIX Emacs (jpeg IIRC) were not supported by the NTEmacs but worked with Cygwin Emacs on X. If you use the Cygwin toolset, I highly recommend using Cygwin Emacs. Ehud. -- Ehud Karni Tel: +972-3-7966-561 /"\ Mivtach - Simon Fax: +972-3-7966-667 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Insurance agencies (USA) voice mail and X Against HTML Mail http://www.mvs.co.il FAX: 1-815-5509341 / \ GnuPG: 98EA398D Better Safe Than Sorry