From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Micha Feigin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Book writing mode? Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:35:04 +0300 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040527093504.GA8273@luna.mooo.com> References: <87u0y2bygv.fsf@lux99.localhost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1085717251 6286 80.91.224.253 (28 May 2004 04:07:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 04:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 28 06:07:18 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BTYeM-0001uw-00 for ; Fri, 28 May 2004 06:07:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BTYXB-0006M5-UD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 May 2004 23:59:53 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BTVE8-00005Z-9Q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 May 2004 20:28:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BTUYo-00016s-I8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 May 2004 19:45:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BTUYn-00016k-KG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 May 2004 19:45:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.115.104.6] (helo=bimba.bezeqint.net) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BTUOj-0002zK-5v for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 May 2004 19:34:57 -0400 Original-Received: from bimba.bezeqint.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bimba.bezeqint.net (Bezeq International SMTP out Mail Server) with SMTP id E2AB1FB88E for ; Fri, 28 May 2004 02:31:10 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from litshi.luna.local ([IP=82.80.5.165]) by eSafe SMTP Relay 1085682707; Fri May 28 02:31:09 2004 Original-Received: from micha by litshi.luna.local with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BTHIK-0002AH-FB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 May 2004 12:35:24 +0300 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87u0y2bygv.fsf@lux99.localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-ESAFE-STATUS: Mail clean X-ESAFE-DETAILS: Clean X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:18830 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:18830 On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 12:44:16AM +0200, upro wrote: > "Peter Milliken" writes: > > > Last time I looked publishers accepted Latex format - it was around before > > Word and it was created to be used by publishers and the publishing of > > books - something that is still not that wonderful an experience to do in > > Word - the number of times I have lost work because of a Word crash...... > > Emacs doesn't crash and Latex does what you tell it without complaining like > > Microsoft Word. > > My publisher wouldn't accept any LaTeX format, only doc or odf, as > long as the pdf is formatted exactly as he whishes - which is not _so_ > easy with LaTeX... > You can always use a latex to rtf converter and then open it in work and save it as doc. Anyway, I don't understand the word requirement. Its hell for the publisher to format it consistently unless the author is proficient with styles, and even then its a major head ache, and its not a very publisher friendly format. Plus it really restricts the available platforms. Mac looks like a much nicer platform for authors then windows and I am not sure of the state of word for the mac (there are surely better solutions), not to mention Linux (although you can always use openoffice to convert to word/pdf from wither the original or latex2rtf). > I use emacs for writing the contents, then, if I have to, convert it > into pdf using LaTeX or submit it as txt -- but normally I use many > different font enxodings so pdflatex is a choice once you're > proficient in LaTeX... > The nice thing about latex is that you can write it in latex not worrying about format and then either set up a style file that gives the required formating or get someone to make one for. From there you can just use pdflatex or whatever. > > > > Writing with Word is like a continual battle (technical documents at least - > > if you want to write a novel then I am sure it would be OK) between you and > > the bugs that seem to be perpetuated from one version of Word to the next - > > I guess they (the programmers) are striving for backward compatibility i.e. > > the same tried and true bugs are in each version :-). > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > wrote in message > > news:mailman.7535.1085590987.1061.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org... > >> > >> I'm sure that latex is very nice, but if you want to get published, you > >> should submit manuscripts in a format which the agent or editor desires. > >> For electronic submissions this is generally Word (.doc) format or plain > >> text (ASCII). If you're submitting only hardcopy, then this matters > >> much less. If you don't care about being published, then you can use > >> whatever you want. :) > >> > >> > >> At 15:36 (UTC-0000) on Wed, 26 May 2004 Michael Slass said: > >> > >> = juman@jumans.net writes: > >> = > >> = >Is there any more then me out there who write articles, books or longer > >> = >storys and uses Emacs? If so what mode do you use for easy editing and > >> = >do write your text using HTML, DocBook etc or so for easy publishing? > >> = > > >> = >/juman > >> = > > >> = > > >> = > >> = If you're going to make a habit/career of writing documents for > >> = publication, and you like emacs for your text editing, I would > >> = recommend that you learn to use LaTeX, a document preparation system. > >> = > >> = LaTeX uses embedded commmands somewhat analogous to HTML tags that > >> = tell the program about the content of your document so it can > >> = determine appropriate formatting. > >> = > >> = There is a wealth of information on the web about LaTeX, but I would > >> = go buy a copy of the canonical work on the subject: > >> = Lamport, Leslie, _LaTeX: A Document Preparation System, 2/E_. > >> = ISBN: 0-201-52983-1 > >> = > >> = Also, there is an excellent mode for working with LaTeX documents from > >> = within emacs, called auctex, available here: > >> = http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex > >> = > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > Michael > > r-znvy: zvpunry.wryqra jro.qr (chg gur "@" jurer vg svgf...) > ab fcnz cyrnfr > _______________________________________________ > Help-gnu-emacs mailing list > Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. >