* starting Emacs 21 in a terminal
@ 2003-02-03 8:26 Klaus Berndl
2003-02-03 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Klaus Berndl @ 2003-02-03 8:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
I'm using NTEmacs 21.1 and cygwin-bash plus cygwin rxvt (a xterm-emulation).
If i call on the command-line "emacs -nw" to start Emacs with no-windows then
i always get the error: "emacs: standard input is not a tty" and Emacs doesn't
start.
What can be the problem...XEmacs starts fine with "xemacs -nw"...
Many Thanks,
Klaus
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* Re: starting Emacs 21 in a terminal
2003-02-03 8:26 starting Emacs 21 in a terminal Klaus Berndl
@ 2003-02-03 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2003-02-04 16:46 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2003-02-03 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
> From: Klaus Berndl <klaus.berndl@sdm.de>
> Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
> Date: 03 Feb 2003 09:26:40 +0100
>
> I'm using NTEmacs 21.1 and cygwin-bash plus cygwin rxvt (a xterm-emulation).
>
> If i call on the command-line "emacs -nw" to start Emacs with no-windows then
> i always get the error: "emacs: standard input is not a tty" and Emacs doesn't
> start.
>
> What can be the problem...
I suspect that the problem is some kind of incompatibility between
the Cygwin-compiled Bash/rxvt and NTEmacs: the way rxvt works is by
opening a pipe to the program(s) it runs, and it sounds like the pipe
it opens doesn't look as a tty to NTEmacs.
> XEmacs starts fine with "xemacs -nw"...
Is that a Cygwin-compiled XEmacs, per chance?
Anyway, this sort of thing should be reported to gnu.emacs.bug, not
here.
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* Re: starting Emacs 21 in a terminal
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@ 2003-02-04 8:07 ` Klaus Berndl
2003-02-04 8:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Klaus Berndl @ 2003-02-04 8:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Mon, 03 Feb 2003, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > From: Klaus Berndl <klaus.berndl@sdm.de>
> > Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
> > Date: 03 Feb 2003 09:26:40 +0100
> >
> > I'm using NTEmacs 21.1 and cygwin-bash plus cygwin rxvt (a
> > xterm-emulation).
> >
> > If i call on the command-line "emacs -nw" to start Emacs with no-windows
> > then i always get the error: "emacs: standard input is not a tty" and
> > Emacs doesn't start.
> >
> > What can be the problem...
>
> I suspect that the problem is some kind of incompatibility between
> the Cygwin-compiled Bash/rxvt and NTEmacs: the way rxvt works is by
> opening a pipe to the program(s) it runs, and it sounds like the pipe
> it opens doesn't look as a tty to NTEmacs.
>
> > XEmacs starts fine with "xemacs -nw"...
>
> Is that a Cygwin-compiled XEmacs, per chance?
Yes, indeed.
>
> Anyway, this sort of thing should be reported to gnu.emacs.bug, not
> here.
Yes, you are right, but i was not sure if this is a bug and our explanation
tells me that this behavior can be a bug but can also be not a bug cause of
trying to run NTEmacs in a cygwin compiled terminal-program.
But next time i will report to gnu.emacs.bug....
Thanks,
Klaus
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* Re: starting Emacs 21 in a terminal
2003-02-04 8:07 ` Klaus Berndl
@ 2003-02-04 8:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2003-02-04 8:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 4 Feb 2003, Klaus Berndl wrote:
> > Anyway, this sort of thing should be reported to gnu.emacs.bug, not
> > here.
>
> Yes, you are right, but i was not sure if this is a bug and our explanation
> tells me that this behavior can be a bug but can also be not a bug cause of
> trying to run NTEmacs in a cygwin compiled terminal-program.
If NTEmacs can possibly be made compatible with the Cygwin terminal
handling, IMHO it should. So this is still worth reporting to
bug-gnu-emacs (and maybe CC the Cygwin mailing list as well).
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* Re: starting Emacs 21 in a terminal
2003-02-03 8:26 starting Emacs 21 in a terminal Klaus Berndl
2003-02-03 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
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@ 2003-02-04 16:46 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-02-04 17:02 ` Klaus Berndl
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From: Benjamin Riefenstahl @ 2003-02-04 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi Klaus,
Klaus Berndl <klaus.berndl@sdm.de> writes:
> I'm using NTEmacs 21.1 and cygwin-bash plus cygwin rxvt (a
> xterm-emulation).
>
> If i call on the command-line "emacs -nw" to start Emacs with
> no-windows then i always get the error: "emacs: standard input is
> not a tty" and Emacs doesn't start.
IIRC, there is a Cygwin environment option CYGWIN=tty, that might
help.
> What can be the problem...XEmacs starts fine with "xemacs -nw"...
The basic problem is that there is no documented way in Windows to
create a pseudo-tty like in Unix. So if you are not using the regular
NT console, Cygwin and rxvt have to play tricks, and even than it
doesn't always work.
Hope this helps, benny
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* Re: starting Emacs 21 in a terminal
2003-02-04 16:46 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
@ 2003-02-04 17:02 ` Klaus Berndl
2003-02-04 19:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-02-05 14:22 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Klaus Berndl @ 2003-02-04 17:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 04 Feb 2003, Benjamin Riefenstahl wrote:
> Hi Klaus,
>
>
> Klaus Berndl <klaus.berndl@sdm.de> writes:
>
> > I'm using NTEmacs 21.1 and cygwin-bash plus cygwin rxvt (a
> > xterm-emulation).
> >
> > If i call on the command-line "emacs -nw" to start Emacs with
> > no-windows then i always get the error: "emacs: standard input is
> > not a tty" and Emacs doesn't start.
>
> IIRC, there is a Cygwin environment option CYGWIN=tty, that might
> help.
No, i have this setting - it doesn't matter...
>
> > What can be the problem...XEmacs starts fine with "xemacs -nw"...
>
> The basic problem is that there is no documented way in Windows to
> create a pseudo-tty like in Unix. So if you are not using the regular
> NT console, Cygwin and rxvt have to play tricks, and even than it
> doesn't always work.
It doesn't work regardless if using the regular NT console or Cygwin rxvt...
I think Eli had the best explanation of the problem...i should write a bug
report...
Thanks,
Klaus
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