From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Fredrik Staxeng Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: S-up and emacs -nw? Date: 22 Oct 2002 09:12:10 +0200 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <1mof9nc5h1.fsf@Tempo.Update.UU.SE> References: <5lr8etd5lk.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <1mfzv2craa.fsf@Tempo.Update.UU.SE> <1melal47d5.fsf@Tempo.Update.UU.SE> <1m1y6l3ukt.fsf@Tempo.Update.UU.SE> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035270978 23248 80.91.224.249 (22 Oct 2002 07:16:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 183tGy-00062Z-00 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:16:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 183tH1-00031K-00; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 03:16:19 -0400 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.2 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: news.update.uu.se Original-X-Trace: puffinus.its.uu.se 1035270006 news.update.uu.se (22 Oct 2002 09:00:06 +0100) Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed1.bredband.com!bredband!news01.chello.se!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!algonet!newsfeed.sunet.se!news01.sunet.se!puffinus.its.uu.se Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:106265 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:2814 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:2814 Alan Mackenzie writes: >Fredrik Staxeng wrote on 20 Oct 2002 19:10:10 +0200: > >> There seems to be a sizeable number of people still running in tty >> mode. I guess about 1% of those run on actual terminals, the rest are >> runnning various terminal emulators. > >I'm one of these people who use an actual terminal (a Linux tty), and I ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ I assume you mean that you run on the Linux console. That is not what I mean with an actual terminal, rather it is an example of a terminal emulator. The relevant difference for the topic of this thread is that emulators can be enhanced to send bucky bits for functions keys. Given that some people still run in tty mode, perhaps it would be I good idea to implement this so that it works by default. I have used actual terminals for several years, and as soon as had the opportunity I switched to X. That was on a 20MHz 386 with 4MBytes of memory with an unaccelerated VGA card in 640x480. I am definitely the wrong person to try to convince about the virtues of text mode. -- Fredrik Stax\"ang | rot13: sfgk@hcqngr.hh.fr