From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs-w3m question Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1f28a20e-0c9f-4478-a85c-27ae40ed7fc9@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com> References: <87vdvdu4mp.fsf@literaturlatenight.de> <74160b46-e541-436a-a776-c8bd53d6cd55@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225406492 22125 80.91.229.12 (30 Oct 2008 22:41:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:41:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 30 23:42:34 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KvgDn-00022b-6V for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:42:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50317 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KvgCg-0003Rt-I6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:41:22 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 38 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.185.159 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1225406317 18501 127.0.0.1 (30 Oct 2008 22:38:37 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.185.159; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Safari/525.22, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:163932 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59274 Archived-At: Xah Lee wrote: > Here's what i do: > > (add-hook 'w3m-mode-hook > (lambda () > (define-key w3m-mode-map (kbd "") 'previous-line) ; was w3m- > previous-anchor. Use Shift+Tab. > (define-key w3m-mode-map (kbd "") 'next-line) ; was w3m-next- > anchor. Use Tab. > (define-key w3m-mode-map (kbd "") 'backward-char) ; was w3m- > view-previous-page. Use B. > (define-key w3m-mode-map (kbd "") 'forward-char) ; was w3m- > view-this-url. Use Enter. > )) > > i think it is good to make this default. More intuitive for emacs > users. Xavier Maillard wrote: > Hi, > For your information, many old computers do not have > Up/Down/Left/Right keys thus making this as a default won't work > for them. I never use these key due to my habits. Therefor I > strongly disagree with you on that point. in perhaps early 1990s, some keyboards do not have the arrow keys, or that some applications (in particular, terminal applications) do not necessarily support physical arrow keys by default. Today, i think more than 99.999% keyboards and applications support the physical arrows keys by default. The availablity of arrow keys i think is pretty much standard by mid 1990s, and their support in applications including term emulators is probably standard by 2000. Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84