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Here it is: https://emacspal.com/extending-emacs-functionally-with-user-defined-keymaps/ чт, 05.12.2024 13:25, Robert Pluim пишет: >>>>>> On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:05:28 +0300, Tatsu Takamaro said: > Tatsu> P. S. But it's still interestin though why is there such a difference > Tatsu> in the description of the *define-keymap* command in the official docs > Tatsu> and in the Emacs Pal article. I suppose there must be an exact > Tatsu> description for the command in the manual, which is the only true. So > Tatsu> are they in Emacs Pal wrong? > > What is 'Emacs Pal'? Can you provide a link? > > Robert