From: Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com>
To: Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, nicholas.dokos@hp.com
Subject: Re: scripting input methods (was back (batch) translate chars to keyboard events)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:28:53 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <18797.1329146933@alphaville> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> of "Mon\, 13 Feb 2012 12\:50\:28 +0530." <CAJ+TeocNV4p0Lh1EECS_p+vzKjwbB6JfwXoByLNb9sJ-jyBJWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have some bunch of sanskrit (devanagari) to type. It would be easiest for me if I could have
> the
> English (roman) as well as the sanskrit (devanagari).
>
> For example using the devanagari-itrans input method I can write the gayatri mantra using
>
> OM bhUrbhuvaH suvaH
> tatsaviturvarenyam
> bhargo devasya dhImahi
> dhiyo yonaH prachodayAt
>
> and emacs produces *on the fly* (ie I cant see/edit the above)
>
> ॐ भूर्भुवः सुवः
> तत्सवितुर्वरेण्यम्
> भर्गो देवस्य धीमहि
> धियो योनः प्रचोदयात्
>
> Can I do it in batch mode? ie write the first in a file and run some command on it to produce
> the second?
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote:
>
> Yup, it can be done, probably in multiple ways but here is one.
>
> I saw your question on the python list and did a bit of digging: I came
> up with a method that probably will work but will require more work to
> flesh out. The key was that input methods read events one at a time and
> (from the Elisp manual):
>
> -- Function: read-event &optional prompt inherit-input-method seconds
> This function reads and returns the next event of command input,
> waiting if necessary until an event is available. Events can come
> directly from the user or from a keyboard macro.
>
> So if you could get the text to become the body of a keyboard macro,
> you could change the input method, execute the macro and that would
> submit the text to the input method as if you had typed it.
>
> Trying the theory, I started a keyboard macro, typed in OM and a newline
> and ended the keyboard macro. I can then switch the input method to
> devanagari-itrans, execute the macro and presto! I get the proper symbol
> (at least to my untrained eyes).
>
> You can insert the definition of a macro in a buffer (and name it, edit it,
> save it to a file and load the file later, and execute the macro by name as
> if it were a function (which it is, strictly speaking). The OM macro above
> turns out to look like this :
>
> (fset 'om
> (lambda (&optional arg) "Keyboard macro." (interactive "p") (kmacro-exec-ring-item (quote ([79
> 77 return] 0 "%d")) arg)))
>
>
>
> I would change the python (or whatever) program to produce the whole
> fset form into a file, then start emacs, load the file, switch input
> method and execute the macro: M-x om.
>
> Nick
>
> Thanks for your efforts Nick!
> Some questions:
> 1. Why fset?
>
That's how emacs stored the definition of the macro: I defined the macro
with C-x ( O M C-x ), named it with C-x C-k n om RET and inserted it in
the buffer with M-x insert-kbd-macro RET om RET. The result was as shown
above.
> I can get the following to work
>
> (defun om (&optional arg)
> "Keyboard macro."
> (interactive "p")
> (kmacro-exec-ring-item '([79 77 return] 0 "%d") arg))
>
> so assuming its just a stylistic question. [If not please enlighten]
In some sense, fset is the lower level primitive: defun could be defined
in terms of fset (but not the other way round). But they do roughly the
"same thing": they attach a function to the function cell of a symbol.
> By 'work' I mean after this definition, M-x om inserts ॐ into the buffer if devanagari-itrans is
> active. So far so good
>
> After that I am a bit stuck:
> 2. kmacro-exec-ring-item has just this much documentation.
>
> kmacro-exec-ring-item is a compiled Lisp function in `kmacro.el'.
>
> (kmacro-exec-ring-item ITEM ARG)
>
> Execute item ITEM from the macro ring.
>
> Does not take me far :-(
>
Can't help here.
> 3. I guess this is really the same as the above question...
> You say
>
>
> So all you need to do is produce that vector of ascii values in there. I
> wrote a trivial python program to produce the ascii codes of your text
> and stuffed the output into the vector, reevaluated the fset, and
> executed the macro with a result that looks suspiciously like the one in
> your email.
>
> The python (or elisp) to a text (ASCII-only) string to its ASCII is 1 line:
>
> >>> def Ascii(str): return [ord(c) for c in str]
>
> I ran this on my file and got:
> [79, 77, 32, 98, 104, 85, 114, 98, 104, 117, 118, 97, 72, 32, 115, 117, 118, 97, 72, 10, 116, 97,
> 116, 115, 97, 118, 105, 116, 117, 114, 118, 97, 114, 101, 110, 121, 97, 109, 10, 98, 104, 97, 114,
> 103, 111, 32, 100, 101, 118, 97, 115, 121, 97, 32, 100, 104, 73, 109, 97, 104, 105, 10, 100, 104,
> 105, 121, 111, 32, 121, 111, 110, 97, 72, 32, 112, 114, 97, 99, 104, 111, 100, 97, 121, 65, 116, 10]
>
> Ok so remove the commas, ADD A 'return' after to last 10 (Whats that??)
The 10 is a RET, so you shouldn't have to add an extra one.
> And it almost works
> ie I get the devanagari output followed by a elisp error:
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable प्रचोदयात्)
> eval(प्रचोदयात्)
> eval-last-sexp-1(t)
> eval-last-sexp(t)
> eval-print-last-sexp()
> call-interactively(eval-print-last-sexp nil nil)
> execute-kbd-macro([79 77 32 98 104 85 114 98 104 117 118 97 72 32 115 117 118 97 72 116 97 116 115
> 97 118 105 116 117 114 118 97 114 101 110 121 97 109 98 104 97 114 103 111 32 100 101 118 97 115 121
> ...] 1 kmacro-loop-setup-function)
> kmacro-exec-ring-item(([79 77 32 98 104 85 114 98 104 117 118 97 72 32 115 117 118 97 72 116 97
> 116 115 97 118 105 116 117 114 118 97 114 101 110 121 97 109 98 104 97 114 103 111 32 100 101 118 97
> 115 121 ...] 0 "%d") 1)
> om(1)
> call-interactively(om t nil)
> execute-extended-command(nil)
> call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil)
>
> The प्रचोदयात् is the devanagari of the last line: prachodayAt
> If I remove the 10 (newline?) it seems to work without the elisp error
>
As you point out in your subsequent post, that's an artifact of lisp-interaction
mode: it does not happen in a text file.
> I guess the problem would be solved if some more suitable function than
> I wonder if there is some better function than kmacro-exec-ring-item could be found for this?
>
And you seem to have found one of those as well.
Good luck!
Nick
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Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-13 7:20 scripting input methods (was back (batch) translate chars to keyboard events) Rustom Mody
2012-02-13 7:41 ` Rustom Mody
2012-02-13 8:17 ` Jambunathan K
2012-02-13 11:06 ` Rustom Mody
2012-02-13 15:47 ` Nick Dokos
2012-02-13 15:28 ` Nick Dokos [this message]
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