From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Roland Winkler" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Viewing PDFs as text? Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:48:31 +0100 Message-ID: <18401.10175.90837.837128@tfkp07.physik.uni-erlangen.de> References: <7599507d-11a4-4e93-974f-5d7aa924b152@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <871w676n4s.fsf@member.fsf.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205938157 29097 80.91.229.12 (19 Mar 2008 14:49:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Tassilo Horn Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 19 15:49:46 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-forward.uio.no ([129.240.10.42]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jbzbq-0005QJ-Ow for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:49:42 +0100 Original-Received: from mail-mx8.uio.no ([129.240.10.38]) by pat.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JbzbH-0002FF-Eg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:49:07 +0100 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by mail-mx8.uio.no with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Jbzb8-00047s-Kp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:49:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jbzb7-0005qG-3O for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:48:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jbzam-0005nw-UL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:48:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jbzal-0005mg-Pn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:48:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jbzal-0005mV-Mr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:48:35 -0400 Original-Received: from tfkpsv.physik.uni-erlangen.de ([131.188.164.197]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jbzal-0005Fy-FI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:48:35 -0400 Original-Received: from tfkp07.physik.uni-erlangen.de (tfkp07.physik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.164.207]) by tfkpsv.physik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88C386437; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:48:32 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <871w676n4s.fsf@member.fsf.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.9 under Emacs 22.1.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-UiO-SPF-Received: Received-SPF: pass (mail-mx8.uio.no: domain of gnu.org designates 199.232.76.165 as permitted sender) client-ip=199.232.76.165; envelope-from=help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org; helo=lists.gnu.org; X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.0, required=5.0, autolearn=disabled, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1) X-UiO-Scanned: E056F17392959A40B2F770EBEDEB160FD5CF37AA X-UiO-SR-test: 2A3A3313168DD32DB988BD1BAB0CFB6791D940EE X-UiO-SPAM-Test: remote_host: 199.232.76.165 spam_score: -9 maxlevel 200 minaction 2 bait 0 mail/h: 13 total 43730 max/h 424 blacklist 0 greylist 0 ratelimit 0 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:52540 Archived-At: On Wed Mar 19 2008 Tassilo Horn wrote: > That could be done, but I don't think it would be a good idea, > because it opens a new buffer that has nothing to do with doc-view > and that could confuse users. Well, many emacs options can potentially confuse users, and I do not request that creating the text buffer is made the default. Yet emacs has a lot to do with customization and achieving a goal in the most efficient way. > BTW, if you only use emacs in a terminal and don't use doc-view at > all, there's a package named txutils [1] that will fit your needs > better. Thanks, I'll look into txutils. However, I spend about half of my time with emacs in a tty and the other half of my time it is running under X. Many emacs packages need to behave differently in these different environments. Yet the advantage is generally that I can use one package in both environments, and this one package comes with one set of commands, keybindings, customizations, etc. Roland