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From: Thomas Lord <lord@basiscraft.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Cc: help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs-bounces+lord=basiscraft.com@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: lamers on IRC
Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 22:12:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16f2cb65bb864c384bd25d8b45b59d03@basiscraft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2a7698a89c8e34126dbc7e357feea8e0@basiscraft.com>


FWIW, a modern, p2p, group-structured system with at least pictures,
short video/audio, very basic hypertext etc... appeals to me
as a way to try to help free people from untrustworthy social
media because I think it spans a nice range of use cases.  For
example, there could be some hubs that aggregate real climate
scientists, or real music experts, or whatever -- and "everyone"
would want to get groups from those big dogs and in the same
system, local (geographic or logical "local") backwaters
could exist.   PLUS - and this is big - it would create a symbiotic
IRL social network among hosts and users.

That, not the details of history, is my main point.  I'm not
just being nostalgic (I think / hope).

-t


On 2022-05-27 22:04, Thomas Lord wrote:
>> Uhm, "upstream host", is that another computer that receives
>> to the same feed as you so thus gets your posts or what is it?
> 
> 
> Example from real life.  In high school I interned at a dinky little
> start-up that was a net-news edge node.   The system administrators
> at that little company set up an internal net news host the same way
> someone might bring in an old ping pong table - to improve the work
> environment.
> 
> That company dialed out to a more established company down the
> road that, as a regional industry courtesy, not only hosted its
> own internal net news host but connected to even bigger fish
> upstream and casually offered peering to local small companies.
> 
> 
>>> Google used its economic power and social influence to first
>>> centralize what was left of mainstream netnews and then to
>>> kill it off.
>> 
>> Well, you can tune into nntp.aioe.org with Gnus this very
>> instant and see how useful it is. But killed - no.
> 
> Yes, I am being a bit absolutist there.
> 
> I suppose to be a little more accurate I would say that they
> killed it as a way of sharing groups that had developed into
> widely used global connected social media (relative to the scales of 
> its
> day).
> 
> To be sure, the not-really-multi-media email-style message format
> didn't exactly help sustain interested in net news.
> 
> -t



  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-28  5:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-22 21:20 lamers on IRC Emanuel Berg
2022-05-23  6:50 ` Jean Louis
2022-05-23 10:51   ` Colin Baxter
2022-05-23 21:45     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-23 15:30   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-05-23 15:41     ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-23 16:12       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-05-24 22:14     ` Jon Fineman
2022-05-24 22:49       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-05-25 16:55         ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-25  5:07       ` Jean Louis
2022-05-23 16:47   ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-23 21:46     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-23 21:42   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-25  5:26     ` Jean Louis
2022-05-25 22:36       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-25 23:55         ` Samuel Wales
2022-05-25 23:58           ` Samuel Wales
2022-05-26  1:48             ` Samuel Banya
2022-05-27  2:25               ` Jean Louis
2022-05-27 10:13                 ` Jean Louis
2022-05-27 14:16                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-27 15:12                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-27 16:13                     ` Jean Louis
2022-05-28  0:17                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-27 15:06                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-27 15:51                     ` Samuel Banya
2022-05-28  0:08                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28  4:11                         ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-28  4:21                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28  4:39                             ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-28  4:54                               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28  5:04                                 ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-28  5:12                                   ` Thomas Lord [this message]
2022-05-28 15:11                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28 15:08                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28 16:12                                     ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-28 16:54                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-29  3:50                                         ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-29 23:52                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-30  0:07                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-30  0:57                                               ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-30  2:24                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-30  2:33                                                   ` Thomas Lord
2022-06-01  0:13                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-09  9:13                                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28  6:49                         ` Jean Louis
2022-05-28 15:16                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-27 16:19                     ` Jean Louis
2022-05-28  0:18                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28  4:04                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28  4:30                       ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2022-05-28  4:32                         ` Emanuel Berg

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