From: Thomas Lord <lord@basiscraft.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Cc: help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs-bounces+lord=basiscraft.com@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: lamers on IRC
Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 22:12:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <16f2cb65bb864c384bd25d8b45b59d03@basiscraft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2a7698a89c8e34126dbc7e357feea8e0@basiscraft.com>
FWIW, a modern, p2p, group-structured system with at least pictures,
short video/audio, very basic hypertext etc... appeals to me
as a way to try to help free people from untrustworthy social
media because I think it spans a nice range of use cases. For
example, there could be some hubs that aggregate real climate
scientists, or real music experts, or whatever -- and "everyone"
would want to get groups from those big dogs and in the same
system, local (geographic or logical "local") backwaters
could exist. PLUS - and this is big - it would create a symbiotic
IRL social network among hosts and users.
That, not the details of history, is my main point. I'm not
just being nostalgic (I think / hope).
-t
On 2022-05-27 22:04, Thomas Lord wrote:
>> Uhm, "upstream host", is that another computer that receives
>> to the same feed as you so thus gets your posts or what is it?
>
>
> Example from real life. In high school I interned at a dinky little
> start-up that was a net-news edge node. The system administrators
> at that little company set up an internal net news host the same way
> someone might bring in an old ping pong table - to improve the work
> environment.
>
> That company dialed out to a more established company down the
> road that, as a regional industry courtesy, not only hosted its
> own internal net news host but connected to even bigger fish
> upstream and casually offered peering to local small companies.
>
>
>>> Google used its economic power and social influence to first
>>> centralize what was left of mainstream netnews and then to
>>> kill it off.
>>
>> Well, you can tune into nntp.aioe.org with Gnus this very
>> instant and see how useful it is. But killed - no.
>
> Yes, I am being a bit absolutist there.
>
> I suppose to be a little more accurate I would say that they
> killed it as a way of sharing groups that had developed into
> widely used global connected social media (relative to the scales of
> its
> day).
>
> To be sure, the not-really-multi-media email-style message format
> didn't exactly help sustain interested in net news.
>
> -t
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-28 5:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-22 21:20 lamers on IRC Emanuel Berg
2022-05-23 6:50 ` Jean Louis
2022-05-23 10:51 ` Colin Baxter
2022-05-23 21:45 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-23 15:30 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-05-23 15:41 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-23 16:12 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-05-24 22:14 ` Jon Fineman
2022-05-24 22:49 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-05-25 16:55 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-25 5:07 ` Jean Louis
2022-05-23 16:47 ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-23 21:46 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-23 21:42 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-25 5:26 ` Jean Louis
2022-05-25 22:36 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-25 23:55 ` Samuel Wales
2022-05-25 23:58 ` Samuel Wales
2022-05-26 1:48 ` Samuel Banya
2022-05-27 2:25 ` Jean Louis
2022-05-27 10:13 ` Jean Louis
2022-05-27 14:16 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-27 15:12 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-27 16:13 ` Jean Louis
2022-05-28 0:17 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-27 15:06 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-27 15:51 ` Samuel Banya
2022-05-28 0:08 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28 4:11 ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-28 4:21 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28 4:39 ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-28 4:54 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28 5:04 ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-28 5:12 ` Thomas Lord [this message]
2022-05-28 15:11 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28 15:08 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28 16:12 ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-28 16:54 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-29 3:50 ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-29 23:52 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-30 0:07 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-30 0:57 ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-30 2:24 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-30 2:33 ` Thomas Lord
2022-06-01 0:13 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-09 9:13 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28 6:49 ` Jean Louis
2022-05-28 15:16 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-27 16:19 ` Jean Louis
2022-05-28 0:18 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28 4:04 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28 4:30 ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2022-05-28 4:32 ` Emanuel Berg
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