From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 14:43:15 +0300 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <1659-Wed07May2003144314+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> References: <39d9c156.0305042200.1639a252@posting.google.com> <39d9c156.0305060558.7cba26d9@posting.google.com> <39d9c156.0305070301.16d27b39@posting.google.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052308675 6597 80.91.224.249 (7 May 2003 11:57:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 11:57:55 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 07 13:57:51 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DNYV-0001hy-00 for ; Wed, 07 May 2003 13:57:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19DNWP-0000hP-0A for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 07:55:41 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19DNW0-0000gV-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 07:55:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19DNQW-0006QG-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 07:49:38 -0400 Original-Received: from balder.inter.net.il ([192.114.186.15]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19DNNm-00050H-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 07:46:47 -0400 Original-Received: from zaretsky (tony08-235-52.inter.net.il [80.230.235.52] (may be forged)) by balder.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id CHW07349; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:46:40 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: <39d9c156.0305070301.16d27b39@posting.google.com> (bk_usenet@yahoo.co.uk) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9377 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:9377 > From: bk_usenet@yahoo.co.uk (BK) > Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.sys.mac.apps > Date: 7 May 2003 04:01:15 -0700 > > What I am interested to know is whether this behavior is due to a bug > that can be fixed and if so how do I fix it, or whether this behavior > is because the current port hasn't yet implemented the functionality, > in which case I would obviously waste my time trying to find a fix. > > This was the nature of the questions I asked. If the technical problems you saw and the most efficient way of fixing them is all you are looking for, why do you insist on reigniting the flames on every turn of this thread? To me, it sounds like you are interested in the flamewar no less than your opponents. Several people replied to you saying that what doesn't work for you does indeed work for them on similar systems. How about if you reply to them and try to figure out, with their help, what is different in your setup that makes those features fail for you? For example, what happens if you invoke Emacs bypassing the ~/.emacs init file and any site-wide startup files, if any? do the features that fail now start working then? As for the flamewars, if you are not interested in them, simply ignore that part of the thread which leads there.