From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: key map entry for shift-return? Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 09:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1648be38-5e41-4d7b-98d8-1f6e6494d2a2@g7g2000prg.googlegroups.com> References: <961bb7e9-56d4-40d5-b0dc-4c15e0da722b@x25g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <878wiykk2r.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247198532 13885 80.91.229.12 (10 Jul 2009 04:02:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:02:12 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 10 06:02:05 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MP7JF-00020g-5a for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:02:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43632 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MP7JE-0004iD-G6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:02:04 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!g7g2000prg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs Original-Lines: 28 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.102.12.87 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1247155263 32459 127.0.0.1 (9 Jul 2009 16:01:03 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g7g2000prg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.102.12.87; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US) AppleWebKit/530.5 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/2.0.172.33 Safari/530.5, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:170699 comp.emacs:98370 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:00:59 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:65919 Archived-At: On Jul 9, 7:27 am, Miles Bader wrote: > Alan Mackenzie writes: > > Hey, stop being so enigmatic! I think the OP only wants Shift Return > > for his own use, which should be OK. So please tell him (and me) what > > this other complexity is. > > He's just looking for an excuse to flog his screeds... Thanks Miles. ^_^ Well, perhaps just a sentence or two to answer Alan. Basically, for good or bad, emacs does not capture the key by itself, but goes thru ascii representation in its implementation... my phrasing here is not exactl but don't want to spend too much time writing this. Basically, the end result is that when people want to map keys like Tab, Return, or with modifiers, it has many complexities. Many threads asked or discussed these in the past year or two here.... another example comes to mind is that emacs is unable to capture Ctrl+Shift+key combos in terminal. Perhaps historically justifiable... but today's apps that goes thru network don't have this limitation... Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84