From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs-w3m question Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:42:21 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <16310865-4178-4762-bab7-6eb35b093c5c@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com> References: <87vdvdu4mp.fsf@literaturlatenight.de> <74160b46-e541-436a-a776-c8bd53d6cd55@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <1f28a20e-0c9f-4478-a85c-27ae40ed7fc9@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <4d476218-bd76-4d41-8a12-1428dfba9e9b@s9g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <107214be-5812-4519-bc29-a52f391f09a3@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <87bpwspvue.fsf@kobe.laptop> <5479b16f-bc86-41f7-8e13-b8f9727927a6@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com> <871vxombxg.fsf@kobe.laptop> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226040114 25592 80.91.229.12 (7 Nov 2008 06:41:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 06:41:54 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 07 07:42:56 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KyL3X-0000wy-F1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:42:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45694 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyL2P-0008Og-Tf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:41:45 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 47 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.185.159 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1226036542 16065 127.0.0.1 (7 Nov 2008 05:42:22 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 05:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.185.159; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Safari/525.22, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:164210 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59545 Archived-At: hi dork Giorgos Keramidas, the mention of Mac and Windows, is to give a context for the expression that tech geeking morons who never used 95% of the world's computers yet insist on how emacs's UI should or should not be. It is not, for example, about ur mom. Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84 On Nov 6, 7:50 pm, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:22:33 -0800 (PST), Xah wrote: > >On Nov 6, 10:12 am, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >>On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:31:02 -0800 (PST), Xah wrote: > >>> in the past year, i changed my newsgroup behavior so that i actually > >>> try to reply to every message, then i came to realize thru > >>> individualistic discussions, that they never used Windows, never used > >>> Mac, which together are some 96% of world's computers emacs runs on, > >>> but they insist that emacs UI should be this or that. > > >> 96% of statistics are made up. > > > by ur mom? > > I guess she has her own share of false statistics, like me, you and > everyone else :) > > >> I don't think Emacs has so _many_ Windows users. > > > How many? > > It wasn't me who hinted at a 96% percentage of the world's computers, so > asking _me_ to provide the number is a bit unrealistic. > > >> I know that a lot of people who use Emacs in other platforms like the > >> Windows ports of Emacs too, but I highly doubt *all* the Windows > >> users know about Emacs :) > > > on the whole, do u have a point? > > Yes. Please don't use made up numbers to insult the people who designed > the UI of Emacs. Some of them have used Windows too. For a long time. > Long enough to get down and actually *port* Emacs on the platform.