From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Arthur Davis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: C-f, C-b, C-n and C-p or right, left, down, up? Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:59:09 -0400 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <16252.12077.612819.213396@red.torrentnet.com> References: <1c58a7c3.0310010003.78c0fa00@posting.google.com> <3F7B041D.C0048AB@smart.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065103373 21908 80.91.224.253 (2 Oct 2003 14:02:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 02 16:02:51 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A542d-000638-00 for ; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 16:02:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A541d-0006Vf-MH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 10:01:49 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A541I-0006Tk-CQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 10:01:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A540k-0006Eh-66 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 10:01:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [198.78.51.110] (helo=emerson.torrentnet.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1A53z7-0005le-43 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 09:59:13 -0400 Original-Received: from imperial.torrentnet.com (imperial.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.109]) by emerson.torrentnet.com (8.11.6p2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h92DxBD55821 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:59:11 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from castillo.torrentnet.com (castillo.torrentnet.com [4.18.161.34]) by imperial.torrentnet.com (8.11.6p2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h92DxBp42710 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:59:11 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from red.torrentnet.com (red.torrentnet.com [4.18.161.17]) by castillo.torrentnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12105; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:59:10 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from adavis@localhost) by red.torrentnet.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h92DxAT15886; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:59:10 -0400 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <3F7B041D.C0048AB@smart.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under Emacs 21.2.1 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:12956 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:12956 Also, you could try catching the catching the control keys with the outside of each hand and the Alt keys with each thumb. This works for me and leaves all my fingers free to reach other keys as usual without much strain. Arthur Daniel B. writes: > Barman Brakjoller wrote: > > > > >From the Emacs tutorial (C-h t): > > > > "... We recommend learning C-b, C-f, C-n and C-p for three > > reasons. First, they work on all kinds of terminals. Second, once > > you gain practice at using Emacs, you will find that typing these > > Control > > characters is faster than typing the arrow keys ..." > > > > Is it worth it? > > Yes, but reconfigure your keyboard so that the Caps Lock key functions > as the control key. (I'm assuming you're using a PC-style keyboard.) > > Emacs control-character sequences were designed when the standard place > for the control key was just to the left of where the A key is (in the > US layout). > > Unfortunately, IBM put the Caps Lock key to the left of the A key, and > pushed the Control key down into a corner where it's hard to reach and > is extremely inconvenient for many Emacs control characters. > > If you reconfigure your keyboard, you'll understand how Emacs control > characters were meant to be used. If you don't, you'll wonder how on > earth anyone can think control-character sequences are faster. > > > If you're running Emacs on Linux under X11 (e.g., GNOME, KDE), you can > reconfigure your control and caps-lock keys in X11's configuration file. > > If you're running Emacs on MS Windows, see NTEmac's instructions; they > mention several ways to swap the control and caps-lock keys. > > > > > > Daniel > -- > Daniel Barclay > dsb@smart.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Help-gnu-emacs mailing list > Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs