From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus: Permanently killing a thread? 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So what you do instead is 'L', >>> which allows you to lower the score of a thread, and then you can >>> use 'V x' to set the score below which messages are automatically >>> hidden (I don=CA=BCt remember offhand if the effect of 'V x' is >>> permanent or not, as I don=CA=BCt really use scoring). >> >> The score approaches sounds find, except I was just wondering: Is >> the score somehow portable across multiple computers? I use multiple >> backends, including nnimap, nnatom, nnrss, and nntp. However, >> focusing on the IMAP messages, it seems that if I mark a message as >> read (which I think is basically the same thing as "killing" it) >> then the message is still marked as read when I login via Gnus on a >> different computer. Would hiding still work if I was just marking >> messages with a low score? >> >> I only use nnatom, nnrss, and nntp on one computer, but the nnimap, >> including the mailing list groups, are used from both computers. > > IMAP is a bit of a special case; where possible (always, perhaps?) > Gnus will use IMAP flags stored on the server for representing things > like readedness marks, ticks, etc. > It could do that but doesn't at the moment. Nnimap Gnus IMAP backend can already query capabilities. If it implements rfc5464 IMAP METADATA it c= ould be possible to store these inside the metadata of severs which support the extension.