From: William Case <billlinux@rogers.com>
To: Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi>
Cc: Jonathan Groll <lists@groll.co.za>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs's popularity
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:35:18 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1229430918.11290.14.camel@CASE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ljuh86il.fsf@iki.fi>
Hi;
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 23:37 +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote:
> Jonathan Groll (2008-12-15 23:09 +0200) wrote:
>
> > Sadly, vim outvotes all flavours of GNU emacs on the above graph when
> > added to it (although to be fair, on Debian emacs is not installed by
> > default but some flavour of vi is).
>
> Yes, nowadays Vim is in every Debian installation (priority "important"
> for vim-tiny). The popularity graph by installs (percent) shows that
> vim-common is basically in everyone's system:
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/6g934p
>
> But Vim is not only installed; it's really used a lot. In Debian Vim has
> always been a bit more popular than Emacs but in the first half of 2007
> Vim really got popular (around Vim 7.1 and Debian 4.0 release). This
> "used actively" graph compares vim-common, emacs21-bin-common and
> emacs22-bin-common packages:
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/5thmmx
My experience is that a Linux user, particularly a new user, should take
a couple of hours to learn the rudiments of each. Not only to make an
informed choice about whether emacs or vim suits them best as a text
editor, but also because most of the key strokes for command line
programs are based on one or the other, e.g. readline on emacs; less on
vi. It took me a couple of years to fully understand that if I learnt
those two programs (vi and emacs), I didn't have to memorize hundreds of
key strokes for all my utility programs.
--
Regards Bill
Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.3
Evo.2.22.3.1, Emacs 22.2.1
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2008-12-02 2:53 is there summary of template systems for emacs? Xah Lee
2008-12-02 4:28 ` Xah Lee
2008-12-03 0:34 ` Drew Adams
2008-12-07 19:14 ` Peter Milliken
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2008-12-14 21:37 ` Xah Lee
2008-12-15 18:24 ` Distributed Maintenance for Emacs (was: is there summary of template systems for emacs?) Leo
2008-12-15 18:45 ` Distributed Maintenance for Emacs Paul R
2008-12-15 18:48 ` is there summary of template systems for emacs? Peter Milliken
2008-12-15 20:21 ` Peter Milliken
[not found] ` <mailman.2806.1229365513.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-15 19:31 ` Emacs's popularity (was: Distributed Maintenance for Emacs) Teemu Likonen
2008-12-15 20:42 ` Peter Milliken
2008-12-15 21:09 ` Jonathan Groll
2008-12-15 21:37 ` Emacs's popularity Teemu Likonen
2008-12-15 21:41 ` Lennart Borgman
[not found] ` <mailman.2823.1229377291.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-15 22:28 ` Richard Riley
2008-12-15 22:59 ` Lennart Borgman
[not found] ` <mailman.2834.1229381955.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-15 23:40 ` Richard Riley
2008-12-16 0:53 ` Lennart Borgman
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2008-12-16 1:01 ` Richard Riley
2008-12-16 8:37 ` Lennart Borgman
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2008-12-16 10:41 ` Richard Riley
2008-12-16 2:37 ` Charles philip Chan
2008-12-16 10:09 ` Tim X
2008-12-16 11:20 ` Richard Riley
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2008-12-16 10:17 ` Tim X
2008-12-16 11:34 ` Phil Carmody
2008-12-16 11:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
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2008-12-16 12:36 ` Phil Carmody
2008-12-16 12:52 ` Juanma Barranquero
[not found] ` <mailman.2855.1229431948.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16 13:03 ` Phil Carmody
2008-12-16 14:07 ` Juanma Barranquero
[not found] ` <mailman.2858.1229436444.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16 15:09 ` Phil Carmody
2008-12-16 15:50 ` Richard Riley
2008-12-16 17:43 ` Andrea Vettorello
2008-12-16 16:05 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-16 16:21 ` Paul R
[not found] ` <mailman.2867.1229443519.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16 17:15 ` Richard Riley
2008-12-17 1:35 ` Phil Carmody
2008-12-16 16:56 ` Andreas Politz
2008-12-17 1:34 ` Phil Carmody
2008-12-17 7:43 ` Tim X
2008-12-17 14:17 ` B Smith-Mannschott
2008-12-15 23:55 ` Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.2835.1229385349.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16 10:21 ` Tim X
2008-12-16 12:35 ` William Case [this message]
2008-12-15 22:03 ` Emacs's popularity (was: Distributed Maintenance for Emacs) Drew Adams
2008-12-15 22:07 ` Lennart Borgman
2008-12-15 22:19 ` Drew Adams
2008-12-15 22:22 ` Lennart Borgman
[not found] ` <mailman.2830.1229379766.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16 10:33 ` Emacs's popularity Tim X
2008-12-16 13:18 ` Emacs's popularity (was: Distributed Maintenance for Emacs) Jonathan Groll
2008-12-16 17:46 ` Drew Adams
2008-12-19 2:10 ` Sean Sieger
2008-12-18 16:30 ` David L
2008-12-18 17:50 ` Drew Adams
2008-12-19 16:53 ` David L
2008-12-19 17:20 ` Drew Adams
2008-12-19 2:37 ` Sean Sieger
[not found] ` <mailman.2825.1229378627.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16 10:22 ` Tim X
2008-12-16 11:56 ` Richard Riley
2008-12-16 18:29 ` Drew Adams
2008-12-15 22:49 ` Emacs's popularity Teemu Likonen
2008-12-16 2:10 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-12-15 21:28 ` Distributed Maintenance for Emacs (was: is there summary of template systems for emacs?) Richard Riley
2008-12-15 19:46 ` is there summary of template systems for emacs? Drew Adams
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