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From: William Case <billlinux@rogers.com>
To: Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi>
Cc: Jonathan Groll <lists@groll.co.za>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs's popularity
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:35:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1229430918.11290.14.camel@CASE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ljuh86il.fsf@iki.fi>

Hi;

On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 23:37 +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote:
> Jonathan Groll (2008-12-15 23:09 +0200) wrote:
> 
> > Sadly, vim outvotes all flavours of GNU emacs on the above graph when
> > added to it (although to be fair, on Debian emacs is not installed by
> > default but some flavour of vi is).
> 
> Yes, nowadays Vim is in every Debian installation (priority "important"
> for vim-tiny). The popularity graph by installs (percent) shows that
> vim-common is basically in everyone's system:
> 
>     http://preview.tinyurl.com/6g934p
> 
> But Vim is not only installed; it's really used a lot. In Debian Vim has
> always been a bit more popular than Emacs but in the first half of 2007
> Vim really got popular (around Vim 7.1 and Debian 4.0 release). This
> "used actively" graph compares vim-common, emacs21-bin-common and
> emacs22-bin-common packages:
> 
>     http://preview.tinyurl.com/5thmmx

My experience is that a Linux user, particularly a new user, should take
a couple of hours to learn the rudiments of each.  Not only to make an
informed choice about whether emacs or vim suits them best as a text
editor, but also because most of the key strokes for command line
programs are based on one or the other, e.g. readline on emacs; less on
vi.  It took me a couple of years to fully understand that if I learnt
those two programs (vi and emacs), I didn't have to memorize hundreds of
key strokes for all my utility programs.
-- 
Regards Bill
Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.3
Evo.2.22.3.1, Emacs 22.2.1





  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-16 12:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-02  2:53 is there summary of template systems for emacs? Xah Lee
2008-12-02  4:28 ` Xah Lee
2008-12-03  0:34 ` Drew Adams
2008-12-07 19:14   ` Peter Milliken
     [not found]   ` <mailman.2168.1228677280.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-14 21:37     ` Xah Lee
2008-12-15 18:24       ` Distributed Maintenance for Emacs (was: is there summary of template systems for emacs?) Leo
2008-12-15 18:45         ` Distributed Maintenance for Emacs Paul R
2008-12-15 18:48       ` is there summary of template systems for emacs? Peter Milliken
2008-12-15 20:21         ` Peter Milliken
     [not found]       ` <mailman.2806.1229365513.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-15 19:31         ` Emacs's popularity (was: Distributed Maintenance for Emacs) Teemu Likonen
2008-12-15 20:42           ` Peter Milliken
2008-12-15 21:09           ` Jonathan Groll
2008-12-15 21:37             ` Emacs's popularity Teemu Likonen
2008-12-15 21:41               ` Lennart Borgman
     [not found]               ` <mailman.2823.1229377291.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-15 22:28                 ` Richard Riley
2008-12-15 22:59                   ` Lennart Borgman
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.2834.1229381955.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-15 23:40                     ` Richard Riley
2008-12-16  0:53                       ` Lennart Borgman
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.2836.1229388824.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16  1:01                         ` Richard Riley
2008-12-16  8:37                           ` Lennart Borgman
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.2845.1229416641.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16 10:41                             ` Richard Riley
2008-12-16  2:37                       ` Charles philip Chan
2008-12-16 10:09                       ` Tim X
2008-12-16 11:20                         ` Richard Riley
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.2843.1229395204.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16 10:17                         ` Tim X
2008-12-16 11:34                     ` Phil Carmody
2008-12-16 11:58                       ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.2853.1229428708.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16 12:36                         ` Phil Carmody
2008-12-16 12:52                           ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.2855.1229431948.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16 13:03                             ` Phil Carmody
2008-12-16 14:07                               ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.2858.1229436444.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16 15:09                                 ` Phil Carmody
2008-12-16 15:50                                   ` Richard Riley
2008-12-16 17:43                                     ` Andrea Vettorello
2008-12-16 16:05                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-16 16:21                                   ` Paul R
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.2867.1229443519.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16 17:15                                     ` Richard Riley
2008-12-17  1:35                                     ` Phil Carmody
2008-12-16 16:56                       ` Andreas Politz
2008-12-17  1:34                         ` Phil Carmody
2008-12-17  7:43                       ` Tim X
2008-12-17 14:17                         ` B Smith-Mannschott
2008-12-15 23:55               ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]               ` <mailman.2835.1229385349.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16 10:21                 ` Tim X
2008-12-16 12:35               ` William Case [this message]
2008-12-15 22:03             ` Emacs's popularity (was: Distributed Maintenance for Emacs) Drew Adams
2008-12-15 22:07               ` Lennart Borgman
2008-12-15 22:19                 ` Drew Adams
2008-12-15 22:22                   ` Lennart Borgman
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.2830.1229379766.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16 10:33                     ` Emacs's popularity Tim X
2008-12-16 13:18                   ` Emacs's popularity (was: Distributed Maintenance for Emacs) Jonathan Groll
2008-12-16 17:46                     ` Drew Adams
2008-12-19  2:10                       ` Sean Sieger
2008-12-18 16:30               ` David L
2008-12-18 17:50                 ` Drew Adams
2008-12-19 16:53                   ` David L
2008-12-19 17:20                     ` Drew Adams
2008-12-19  2:37                 ` Sean Sieger
     [not found]             ` <mailman.2825.1229378627.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-12-16 10:22               ` Tim X
2008-12-16 11:56                 ` Richard Riley
2008-12-16 18:29                   ` Drew Adams
2008-12-15 22:49           ` Emacs's popularity Teemu Likonen
2008-12-16  2:10           ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-12-15 21:28         ` Distributed Maintenance for Emacs (was: is there summary of template systems for emacs?) Richard Riley
2008-12-15 19:46       ` is there summary of template systems for emacs? Drew Adams

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