* split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections @ 2008-09-14 11:52 Gil 2008-09-14 12:09 ` harven ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Gil @ 2008-09-14 11:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Is there a way to split the screen horizontally (C-x 3) in such a way that the three windows are equally spaced? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections 2008-09-14 11:52 split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections Gil @ 2008-09-14 12:09 ` harven 2008-09-14 12:48 ` Rupert Swarbrick ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: harven @ 2008-09-14 12:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs On Sep 14, 1:52 pm, Gil <gilbert.har...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is there a way to split the screen horizontally (C-x 3) in such a way > that the three windows are equally spaced? M-x balance-windows which is bound to C-x + ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections 2008-09-14 11:52 split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections Gil 2008-09-14 12:09 ` harven @ 2008-09-14 12:48 ` Rupert Swarbrick 2008-09-14 16:01 ` Peter Dyballa 2008-09-16 5:22 ` Allan Gottlieb [not found] ` <mailman.19329.1221542577.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 3 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Rupert Swarbrick @ 2008-09-14 12:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 446 bytes --] Gil <gilbert.harman@gmail.com> writes: > Is there a way to split the screen horizontally (C-x 3) in such a way > that the three windows are equally spaced? Gosh, I swear I've answered this question 3 times this month! Is everone suddenly buying bigger monitors or something? Anyway, someone's already suggested balance-windows. I'm fond of this hacky solution (NIH coming to the fore?): http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help/56928 Rupert [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 314 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections 2008-09-14 12:48 ` Rupert Swarbrick @ 2008-09-14 16:01 ` Peter Dyballa 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2008-09-14 16:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rupert Swarbrick; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Am 14.09.2008 um 14:48 schrieb Rupert Swarbrick: > Is everone suddenly buying bigger monitors or something? Trial package from top screen enlargement site. -- Greetings Pete Got Mole problems? Call Avogadro 6.02 x 10^23 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections 2008-09-14 11:52 split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections Gil 2008-09-14 12:09 ` harven 2008-09-14 12:48 ` Rupert Swarbrick @ 2008-09-16 5:22 ` Allan Gottlieb [not found] ` <mailman.19329.1221542577.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 3 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Allan Gottlieb @ 2008-09-16 5:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs At Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Gil <gilbert.harman@gmail.com> wrote: > Is there a way to split the screen horizontally (C-x 3) in such a way > that the three windows are equally spaced? Yes, You want balance-windows (see below). C-x 1 C-x 3 C-x 3 C-x + Will give you three equal size windows in the frame. allan C-x + runs the command balance-windows which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `window.el'. It is bound to C-x +. (balance-windows &optional WINDOW-OR-FRAME) Make windows the same heights or widths in window split subtrees. When called non-interactively WINDOW-OR-FRAME may be either a window or a frame. It then balances the windows on the implied frame. If the parameter is a window only the corresponding window subtree is balanced. [back] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
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* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections [not found] ` <mailman.19329.1221542577.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2008-10-07 22:26 ` maps.automation58 2008-10-08 19:15 ` Allan Gottlieb ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: maps.automation58 @ 2008-10-07 22:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs On Sep 16, 1:22 am, Allan Gottlieb <gottl...@nyu.edu> wrote: > At Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Gil <gilbert.har...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Is there a way to split the screen horizontally (C-x 3) in such a way > > that the three windows are equally spaced? > > Yes, You want balance-windows (see below). > > C-x 1 C-x 3 C-x 3 C-x + > > Will give you three equal size windows in the frame. > > allan > > C-x + runs the command balance-windows > which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `window.el'. > It is bound to C-x +. > (balance-windows &optional WINDOW-OR-FRAME) my balance-windows only balances them vertically... is there another command I can use or an easy way I can change that? > > Make windows the same heights or widths in window split subtrees. > > When called non-interactively WINDOW-OR-FRAME may be either a > window or a frame. It then balances the windows on the implied > frame. If the parameter is a window only the corresponding window > subtree is balanced. > > [back] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections 2008-10-07 22:26 ` maps.automation58 @ 2008-10-08 19:15 ` Allan Gottlieb 2008-10-08 22:01 ` Bastien [not found] ` <mailman.622.1223503318.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Allan Gottlieb @ 2008-10-08 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs At Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:26:06 -0700 (PDT) maps.automation58@gmail.com wrote: > On Sep 16, 1:22 am, Allan Gottlieb <gottl...@nyu.edu> wrote: >> At Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Gil <gilbert.har...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Is there a way to split the screen horizontally (C-x 3) in such a way >> > that the three windows are equally spaced? >> >> Yes, You want balance-windows (see below). >> >> C-x 1 C-x 3 C-x 3 C-x + >> >> Will give you three equal size windows in the frame. >> >> allan >> >> C-x + runs the command balance-windows >> which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `window.el'. >> It is bound to C-x +. >> (balance-windows &optional WINDOW-OR-FRAME) > my balance-windows only balances them vertically... is there another > command I can use or an easy way I can change that? It works for me under both version 22 and version 23. What emacs version are you running. Also do you start with a wide frame? allan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections 2008-10-07 22:26 ` maps.automation58 2008-10-08 19:15 ` Allan Gottlieb @ 2008-10-08 22:01 ` Bastien [not found] ` <mailman.622.1223503318.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2008-10-08 22:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs maps.automation58@gmail.com writes: > my balance-windows only balances them vertically... is there another > command I can use or an easy way I can change that? If you manipulate windows a lot, you can try windresize.el: http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/u/windresize.el M-x windresize RET 3 3 = will split the screen in three equal vertical columns. -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
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* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections [not found] ` <mailman.622.1223503318.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2008-10-10 7:11 ` Sébastien Vauban 2008-10-10 8:00 ` harven ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Sébastien Vauban @ 2008-10-10 7:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ Hello all, > If you manipulate windows a lot, you can try windresize.el. Is there some already existing code that would allow to "switch" from a vertical layout of windows to an horizontal one, and vice versa? For example: --------- --------- | A | | | | --------- ----> | A | B | | B | | | | --------- --------- Thanks, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections 2008-10-10 7:11 ` Sébastien Vauban @ 2008-10-10 8:00 ` harven 2008-10-10 8:02 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: harven @ 2008-10-10 8:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Sébastien Vauban <zthjwsqqafhv@spammotel.com> writes: > Hello all, > >> If you manipulate windows a lot, you can try windresize.el. > > Is there some already existing code that would allow to "switch" > from a vertical layout of windows to an horizontal one, and vice > versa? > > For example: > > --------- --------- > | A | | | | > --------- ----> | A | B | > | B | | | | > --------- --------- > > Thanks, > Seb > > -- > Sébastien Vauban See the wiki. http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en/ToggleWindowSplit ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections 2008-10-10 7:11 ` Sébastien Vauban 2008-10-10 8:00 ` harven @ 2008-10-10 8:02 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) 2008-10-10 15:53 ` Nikolaj Schumacher 2008-10-10 8:38 ` Bastien [not found] ` <mailman.767.1223627907.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 3 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) @ 2008-10-10 8:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sébastien Vauban; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Sébastien Vauban wrote: > Hello all, > >> If you manipulate windows a lot, you can try windresize.el. > > Is there some already existing code that would allow to "switch" > from a vertical layout of windows to an horizontal one, and vice > versa? > > For example: > > --------- --------- > | A | | | | > --------- ----> | A | B | > | B | | | | > --------- --------- Yes, in winsize.el that comes with nXhtml. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections 2008-10-10 8:02 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) @ 2008-10-10 15:53 ` Nikolaj Schumacher 2008-10-10 16:10 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Nikolaj Schumacher @ 2008-10-10 15:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lennart Borgman (gmail); +Cc: Sébastien Vauban, help-gnu-emacs "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, in winsize.el that comes with nXhtml. If you don't mind me asking, but why does it? It sounds very interesting and useful beyond nxhtml. Why isn't it packaged on it's own? (I'm a bit bothered by big modes that do everything. ECB forces its own window configuration. The Ruby on Rails mode has its own snippet mechanism. I feel that such bundling limits the overall usefulness.) regards, Nikolaj Schumacher ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections 2008-10-10 15:53 ` Nikolaj Schumacher @ 2008-10-10 16:10 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) 2008-10-10 19:04 ` Nikolaj Schumacher 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) @ 2008-10-10 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nikolaj Schumacher; +Cc: Sébastien Vauban, help-gnu-emacs Nikolaj Schumacher wrote: > "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes, in winsize.el that comes with nXhtml. > > If you don't mind me asking, but why does it? > > It sounds very interesting and useful beyond nxhtml. Why isn't it > packaged on it's own? Because I do not have time to do it in another way. I constantly fix small bugs that I find and then it just takes to much time uploading a file to different places. I do not think it is a problem any more since you can easily get a single file from the nXhtml repository at Launchpad. > (I'm a bit bothered by big modes that do everything. ECB forces its own > window configuration. The Ruby on Rails mode has its own snippet > mechanism. I feel that such bundling limits the overall usefulness.) I really feel the opposite! Not bundling things can make things take forever to setup. In the particular case of winsize.el this is not the case of course, but when it comes to more complex things then I definitively prefer bundling. Remember that complexity tends to grow exponentially with the number of involved things. Bundling lowers the number of possible combinations without any serious restrictions. Any user who prefer shooting themselves in the foot are free to do so, but those who do not have time with it can use the bundle ;-) More seriously another mechanism for bundling would be better. A very good sysstem for version control and dependencies is what I would prefer - if someone has time to write it, test it, etc. And of course get people to use it, mark all old dependencies ... > regards, > Nikolaj Schumacher > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections 2008-10-10 16:10 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) @ 2008-10-10 19:04 ` Nikolaj Schumacher 2008-10-10 19:36 ` Lennart Borgman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Nikolaj Schumacher @ 2008-10-10 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lennart Borgman (gmail); +Cc: Sébastien Vauban, help-gnu-emacs "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> wrote: > when it comes to more complex things then I definitively prefer > bundling. Remember that complexity tends to grow exponentially with the > number of involved things. Exactly. If two things are tied-together, there are more things involved. If they are separate, complexity is actually reduced. We're talking about slightly different things, I think. When there are real dependencies, I don't mind packaging. It's a sane choice in absence of package management. But many packages have artificial dependencies that wouldn't have to exist. I don't know about your package, so I don't want to make any assumptions. But, for example, ECB can only reasonably used with the included (brain-dead) window management. There is no way to just use the (excellent) class browser. That's a serious restriction... It seems that winsize is optional, as well as separately usable. I don't mind that they're in the same zip file. I just think that bundling generally increases the risk that they needlessly get tangled together. I hope that doesn't happen. regards, Nikolaj Schumacher ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections 2008-10-10 19:04 ` Nikolaj Schumacher @ 2008-10-10 19:36 ` Lennart Borgman 2008-10-11 12:57 ` Nikolaj Schumacher [not found] ` <mailman.852.1223729847.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Lennart Borgman @ 2008-10-10 19:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nikolaj Schumacher; +Cc: Sébastien Vauban, help-gnu-emacs On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Nikolaj Schumacher <me@nschum.de> wrote: > "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> wrote: > >> when it comes to more complex things then I definitively prefer >> bundling. Remember that complexity tends to grow exponentially with the >> number of involved things. > > Exactly. If two things are tied-together, there are more things > involved. If they are separate, complexity is actually reduced. I think you deliberately are trying to hide my point ;-) Yes, you are right in a sense, but my point is that you reduce complexity by binding things together. When you bundle elisp libraries you know which versions are included and thus reduce complexity since the version dimension is fixed. > We're talking about slightly different things, I think. When there are > real dependencies, I don't mind packaging. It's a sane choice in > absence of package management. But many packages have artificial > dependencies that wouldn't have to exist. I do some cleanup on that whenever I have time ... ;-) > I don't know about your package, so I don't want to make any > assumptions. But, for example, ECB can only reasonably used with the > included (brain-dead) window management. There is no way to just use > the (excellent) class browser. That's a serious restriction... I do not know ECB, but I think you should look a bit closer if you think the window management is brain-dead. I think Eric has struggled quite a lot with the somewhat limited window management capabilities that are available currently in Emacs. This has been discussed on the developers list. If you are willing to work with this I think there are still things to be done. Please look in the archive. You might be right that the coupling window-management/cloase browser is unnecessary, I don't know. But I know that Eric has made some rather silent complaints that he is doing most of the work on CEDET et al himself. So there is room for you there as well! > It seems that winsize is optional, as well as separately usable. I don't > mind that they're in the same zip file. I just think that bundling > generally increases the risk that they needlessly get tangled together. > I hope that doesn't happen. It happens all the time when you are in a hurry. It also happens when primitives you need are not available in Emacs. Getting them into Emacs often takes a long time because of the limited number of developers. While waiting for that things must be bundled (or you have to double the code which is much, much worse). To sum it up: Most of the time what people think is bad bundling is more a lack of understanding in the beholder. And of course a lack of time on both sides. The hard thing is to find reasonable ways to work with the limited resources we have. I have found that some bundling is often an effective way. > regards, > Nikolaj Schumacher > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections 2008-10-10 19:36 ` Lennart Borgman @ 2008-10-11 12:57 ` Nikolaj Schumacher [not found] ` <mailman.852.1223729847.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Nikolaj Schumacher @ 2008-10-11 12:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lennart Borgman; +Cc: Sébastien Vauban, help-gnu-emacs "Lennart Borgman" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> wrote: > I think you deliberately are trying to hide my point ;-) > > Yes, you are right in a sense, but my point is that you reduce > complexity by binding things together. When you bundle elisp libraries > you know which versions are included and thus reduce complexity since > the version dimension is fixed. No no, I agreed with your point. :) It absolutely reduces complexity. But if there are /no/ dependencies between the two packages, that's even less complex. Less coupling is always better... I'm not trying to make a case against bundling dependencies, just against solving too many problems in the same tool. I see now that this is not the case with yours... > I do not know ECB, but I think you should look a bit closer if you > think the window management is brain-dead. I think Eric has struggled > quite a lot with the somewhat limited window management capabilities > that are available currently in Emacs. I have actually looked quite closely at ECB in order to remove the window management[1]. It's certainly powerful and has some capabilities that would suit Emacs well. I call it "brain-dead", because it completely takes over and breaks any other window management code. (It's as much a personal opinion as calling the method browser excellent) I have the highest respect for Eric and love his work on Semantic. I'm not aware if he has also done significant work on ECB. But whoever did made some bad design choices IMHO. As far as helping out goes, my time is already thinly spread. There are many things I think are needed, but only so many I can work on at a time... So I'm happy about your winsav, because it will save me time[2]. I have a genuine interest in having it usable outside of nxhmtl. regards, Nikolaj Schumacher [1]: I've succeeded in simulating the ECB window management to the ECB method browser. It wasn't pretty. [2]: http://nschum.de/src/emacs/split-root/ was born out of the same need, but is less complete. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
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* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections [not found] ` <mailman.852.1223729847.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2008-10-11 14:07 ` Andreas Politz 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Andreas Politz @ 2008-10-11 14:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Nikolaj Schumacher wrote: [...] > > As far as helping out goes, my time is already thinly spread. There are > many things I think are needed, but only so many I can work on at a > time... So I'm happy about your winsav, because it will save me time[2]. I > have a genuine interest in having it usable outside of nxhmtl. > > > regards, > Nikolaj Schumacher > > [2]: http://nschum.de/src/emacs/split-root/ was born out of the same > need, but is less complete. > I spend like the whole night to code something like winsav.el, while I should have paying closer attention to this thread. Though I have yet another a bit a different approach. -ap ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections 2008-10-10 7:11 ` Sébastien Vauban 2008-10-10 8:00 ` harven 2008-10-10 8:02 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) @ 2008-10-10 8:38 ` Bastien [not found] ` <mailman.767.1223627907.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 3 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2008-10-10 8:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sébastien Vauban; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Sébastien Vauban <zthjwsqqafhv@spammotel.com> writes: > Is there some already existing code that would allow to "switch" > from a vertical layout of windows to an horizontal one, and vice > versa? > > For example: > > --------- --------- > | A | | | | > --------- ----> | A | B | > | B | | | | > --------- --------- Not yet. But the switch above is just M-x windresize RET 0 3 RET. I can't really imagine a situation where it's often useful to switch from a horizontal layout to a vertical one, can you give me examples? best, -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
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* Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections [not found] ` <mailman.767.1223627907.25473.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2008-10-10 10:23 ` Sébastien Vauban 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Sébastien Vauban @ 2008-10-10 10:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ Hello, First thanks to Harven and Lennart for their answers, and to you, Bastien, as well... FYI, I've tried the transpose window stuff from EmacsWiki, and it perfectly works... >> Is there some already existing code that would allow to "switch" >> from a vertical layout of windows to an horizontal one, and vice >> versa? >> >> For example: >> >> --------- --------- >> | A | | | | >> --------- ----> | A | B | >> | B | | | | >> --------- --------- > > Not yet. But the switch above is just M-x windresize RET 0 3 RET. Thanks for the example. It wasn't that clear for me, even after looking through winresize.el. > I can't really imagine a situation where it's often useful to switch > from a horizontal layout to a vertical one, can you give me examples? Of course, you have the ediffing case where I want to easily switch from one configuration to the other, depending on what I'm comparing and how (having my Emacs full screen or not). But there is already a key binding for that. Another case is, for example, when I'm reading mail. Sometimes I'd like to pass from the first screen configuration above (which is my default one, with Gnus) to the second, in a matter of seconds, and without the mouse). In that case, I first force full screen (under Ubuntu) with `C-c z': --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (unless running-ms-windows (defun my-toggle-full-screen () "Toggle between full screen and partial screen display on X11; courtesy of http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/FullScreen" (interactive) (x-send-client-message nil 0 nil "_NET_WM_STATE" 32 '(2 "_NET_WM_STATE_FULLSCREEN" 0))) (global-set-key [(control c) (z)] 'my-toggle-full-screen)) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- and then I have to switch the split of the windows, which was the missing piece of my puzzle. Does this make sense? Best regards, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
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