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From: rustom <rustompmody@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: An alternative to a monolithic ~/.emacs init file
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:18:19 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1194697099.703581.205890@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3180.1194617919.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>

Thanks Sebastian for a detailed response. But I cant see how it will
work. Let me try and collect the pieces of the jigsaw as I understand
them.
Firstly the organization

On Nov 9, 7:18 pm, Sebastian Tennant <seb...@smolny.plus.com> wrote:

> With this arrangement, library functions I've written that I don't always want to load at startup, but I do want to have
> to hand, go in ~/elisp/lib, and customisations (and functions I do always want to load at startup) go in
> ~/elisp/dotemacs.

Second the scales:
Lets assume that elisp/lib contains thousands of lines of lisp
distilled into say about 10 autoloads and a few customizations. In
general the user is never expected to use the 10 autoloads together.

Now the call:  (apply 'update-directory-autoloads '("~/elisp/lib"))
or   (update-directory-autoloads "~/elisp/lib")
will traverse the whole lib file-set -- all the thousands of lines --
at startup losing the advantage of autoloading.

For using an elisp module let us say foo I guess we need the following
three phases:

Phase 1 (To be run only when foo is added to elisp/lib)  Run update-
file-autloads and generate the autoloads into loaddefs.el in elisp/lib/
foo

Phase 2. Add a set of user customizations (called say
customizations.el) to elisp/lib/foo [Also one-time like the above]

Phase 3. In .emacs -- run on emacs startup -- Have a function say load-
loaddefs-from-directory that goes through each subdirectory in lib,
finds all files called loaddefs.el and loads them.

This way the .emacs can be nothing more than the two lines

(load-loaddefs-from-directory "~/elisp/lib")
(load-customizations-from-directory "~/elisp/lib")

And there are no superfluous file traversals at emacs startup time

Knowing emacs and its community I guess this functionality is already
available!

Question is what is it called :-)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-10 12:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.2759.1193756709.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-11-07 17:13 ` An alternative to a monolithic ~/.emacs init file rustom
2007-11-08 13:08   ` Sebastian Tennant
     [not found]   ` <mailman.3126.1194527313.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-11-08 19:53     ` rustom
2007-11-09 14:18       ` Sebastian Tennant
     [not found]       ` <mailman.3180.1194617919.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-11-10 12:18         ` rustom [this message]
2007-11-10 17:13           ` Tom Tromey
     [not found]           ` <mailman.3247.1194750639.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-11-11 15:29             ` rustom
2007-11-12 21:56               ` Tim X
2007-11-13  4:21                 ` rustom
2007-11-13  9:26                   ` Tim X
2007-11-14  3:52                     ` rustom
2007-11-13  1:22             ` rustom
2007-11-11  0:09       ` Francisco Miguel Colaço
2007-10-30 15:04 Sebastian Tennant
2007-10-30 20:30 ` Sebastian Tennant

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