From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: mowgli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Quite a few emacs questions Date: 17 May 2007 17:27:13 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1179448033.268369.214140@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> References: <1179276142.234222.189970@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1179430428.737521.121530@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1179438643.818287.167270@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179448361 30770 80.91.229.12 (18 May 2007 00:32:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 00:32:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 18 02:32:40 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HoqOe-00046Y-8p for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 02:32:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HoqWn-0000pr-Bi for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:41:05 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newshub.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 42 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 221.128.144.233 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1179448037 14462 127.0.0.1 (18 May 2007 00:27:17 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 00:27:17 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070310 Iceweasel/2.0.0.3 (Debian-2.0.0.3-1),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=221.128.144.233; posting-account=-HXNwg0AAADDAYolbLkw7x9oaDWGNwXB Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:148523 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:44115 Archived-At: On May 18, 5:08 am, Tyler Smith wrote: > I'm not sure what you mean - when you're running a straight console > how do you avoid having ls scroll off the screen? Other than piping it > into less, I don't know how you'd do it. Well, I think you did not quite understand what I meant in my last post. Or the problem itself. When you do an ls -l in the real console, you get 25 lines of output and it scrolls off t he screen only if the output is more than 25 lines right? In eshell, the output scrolls off the screen even if it is 15 lines or more. THIS is the problem. term and shell are better and ls -l works normally as it would on console. What's the difference between the three and which is better featurewise? Regards, mowgli > In emacs you have all kinds of ways to deal with long output. If you > don't like scrolling backwards through the output, you can type C-c > C-p, which will move you back to the last prompt, so you can scroll > forwards through the output. But if the output is longer than the > length of the screen you will have to scroll to see it all. Emacs > can't make 100 lines of output fit on a 40 line screen. > Something else you could try is C-x d, which will prompt you for the > directory you want to see. The contents of the directory are put into > a window that you can scroll up and down in, open, rename, delete, > move files, all kinds of stuff. There's a whole suite of commands > available from within this buffer, called dired-mode. You'll need to > read the manual to find out all the details.