From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: William Case Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Need an enabler for a bad habit. Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 11:38:35 -0500 Message-ID: <1162399115.2545.43.camel@CASE> References: <877iygcrtx.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1162399220 21204 80.91.229.2 (1 Nov 2006 16:40:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 16:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 01 17:40:17 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfJ8H-0003dB-A1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:40:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfJ8G-0002eI-PW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 11:40:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GfJ7c-00026o-Ia for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 11:39:24 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GfJ7a-00024T-Qm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 11:39:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfJ7a-000249-Iy for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 11:39:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [68.142.225.207] (helo=smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfJ7a-00044V-Gn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 11:39:22 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 71805 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2006 16:39:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:Subject:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1LRdWPtuKlJYeVvJZthVcS0RpDTxu5mVuMKMt6kbc2/7RZ/cE8qUPLnz7YiMnHGJFavaZiKMeQgeIY6+Zmiu8DkxjzZG7ErhQemFEzq4ihtLx94ENkPrIZXZgWJJMO0gTVX34bmul0WwPz6nan2J3K+ES6bw5yfan9hqmO8D4wY= ; Original-Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (billlinux@rogers.com@74.104.100.126 with plain) by smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2006 16:39:16 -0000 Original-To: Mathias Dahl In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 (2.6.3-1.fc5.5) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:38462 Archived-At: Hi Mathias; On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 16:05 +0100, Mathias Dahl wrote: > William Case writes: > > > Mathias, I was trying to skip using many words to say a simple > > thing. Perhaps the paragraph should have read "I know, I know. > > There is no need. As long as emacs has the focus I can just start to > > type M-x or C-X C-F etc. and my command will automatically appear in > > the mini-buffer." > > So, what you want is to be able to click in the echo area (the area > below the mode line) to get the "M-x prompt" (without needing to type > M-x), is it? Essentially, yes. But I have always thought what you have called the echo area was the mini-buffer in emacs and I don't even need the "M-x prompt". I just want my cursor blinking in the very first field/column of the echo area. I will type the command or accelerator keys that I need after the cursor is placed. I would expect that the cursor would remain at the end of the command line until I push Enter. If you open a virtual terminal and type a couple of shell commands, you can see what I mean. I want to reconfirm, I am not advocating that others may want this or that it is something emacs should automatically do. In fact, it is a waste of time and clicks and/or keystrokes. However, intuitively, as in a command line on a terminal, I like to see that I have moved on to the next command by seeing the cursor at the beginning of a cleared command line (the command-to-be, so to speak), that I have a second or two to think about what exactly I am going to type next; and what I type next will be a command of some sort. It is a habit that comes from 30 years of being a computer user. -- Regards Bill