info files

info files

[Dan Bensen]

There are tons of .info.gz files in /usr/info, but Emacs info doesn't 
seem to see them.  When I type M-x info, this appears in the window:

Emacs
* Info: (info).		How to use the documentation browsing system.
* Emacs: (emacs).	The extensible self-documenting text editor.
* Emacs FAQ: (efaq).	Frequently Asked Questions about Emacs.

etc.  But nothing from /usr/info.  How do you access those files?

Re: info files

[Sam Peterson]

>>>>> "Dan" == Dan Bensen <randomgeek@cyberspace.net> writes:

    > There are tons of .info.gz files in /usr/info, but Emacs info
    > doesn't seem to see them.  When I type M-x info, this appears in
    > the window:

    > Emacs * Info: (info).  How to use the documentation browsing
    > system.  * Emacs: (emacs). The extensible self-documenting text
    > editor.  * Emacs FAQ: (efaq). Frequently Asked Questions about
    > Emacs.

    > etc.  But nothing from /usr/info.  How do you access those
    > files?

The dir file has to have entries pointing to 'em.  You need to use the
install-info command for this.  sudo install-info <filename> <dir
file> is the typical incantation on Unix systems.

There may be a way to point info directly at a file path, it's not
something I know how to do off the top of my head right now.

-- 
Sam Peterson
skpeterson At nospam ucdavis.edu
"if programmers were paid to remove code instead of adding it,
software would be much better" -- unknown

Re: info files

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 30.10.2006 um 05:17 schrieb Dan Bensen:

> There are tons of .info.gz files in /usr/info, but Emacs info  
> doesn't seem to see them.

When you are in *info* and type C-x d (to enter dired mode): where  
are you? If you're outside of /usr/info (presumingly in /usr/local/ 
info), then you'll need to add /usr/info to the environment variable  
INFOPATH. Or you set an INFOPATH environment variable in some init  
file (site-start.el, .emacs) ...

Check also that a ``dir´´ file exists that contains descriptions of  
all info.gz files!

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Re: info files

[Dan Bensen]

Sam Peterson wrote:
> The dir file has to have entries pointing to 'em.  You need to use the
> install-info command for this.  sudo install-info <filename> <dir
> file> is the typical incantation on Unix systems.

I don't seem to have it.

root[ocaml]# which install-info
which: no install-info in 
(/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin)

Re: info files

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 31.10.2006 um 05:34 schrieb Dan Bensen:

> I don't seem to have it.
>
> root[ocaml]# which install-info
> which: no install-info in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/ 
> usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin)

So you need to install the GNU texinfo package: http://www.gnu.org/ 
software/texinfo/.

--
Greetings

   Pete

Ich bin dafür, die Dinge soweit wie möglich zu vereinfachen.
Aber nicht weiter.         - Albert Einstein

Re: info files

[rthorpe]

Dan Bensen wrote:
> Sam Peterson wrote:
> > The dir file has to have entries pointing to 'em.  You need to use the
> > install-info command for this.  sudo install-info <filename> <dir
> > file> is the typical incantation on Unix systems.
>
> I don't seem to have it.
>
> root[ocaml]# which install-info
> which: no install-info in
> (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin)

As well as getting the TexInfo package from somewhere you might want to
check your system is OK.  Mostly install-info is part of the base
install of a GNU/Linux distro since it's often automatically triggered
after installation of a package to update the dir file.

Re: info files

[Dan Bensen]

rthorpe@realworldtech.com wrote:
> As well as getting the TexInfo package from somewhere you might want to
> check your system is OK.
This is a fresh install of Zenwalk, which used to be Minislack.  The CD 
was current as of this past summer.

Re: info files

[Dan Bensen]

Peter Dyballa wrote:
> So you need to install the GNU texinfo package: 
> http://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/.
Oh.  I thought Emacs had an info reader built into it.  Thanks.

Re: info files

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 31.10.2006 um 16:47 schrieb Dan Bensen:

> Peter Dyballa wrote:
>> So you need to install the GNU texinfo package: http://www.gnu.org/ 
>> software/texinfo/.
> Oh.  I thought Emacs had an info reader built into it.  Thanks.

The info files reader is built-in, but not the software to set up the  
info files system, particularly the automatic creator of entries in  
the dir files. Again, GNU Emacs has also the ability to interpret the  
dir files ...

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Greetings

   Pete

"Computers are good at following instructions,
but not at reading your mind."
D. E. Knuth, The TeXbook, Addison-Wesley 1984, 1986, 1996, p. 9

Re: info files

[Robert Thorpe]

Dan Bensen wrote:
> rthorpe@realworldtech.com wrote:
> > As well as getting the TexInfo package from somewhere you might want to
> > check your system is OK.
> This is a fresh install of Zenwalk, which used to be Minislack.  The CD
> was current as of this past summer.

I see.  People from the corner of the world near Slackware tend to like
"minimalism" as a result they tend not to use Emacs and so tend not to
support it well.  Possibly none of the developers have ever noticed
that the manuals don't come up properly because they don't use Emacs or
info.  (Understand this isn't a direct allegation against Zenwalk, it's
just been something I've noticed in other Slackware derivatives).

Slackware itself supports Emacs reasonably though.

Re: info files

[Dan Bensen]

Robert Thorpe wrote:
> I see.  People from the corner of the world near Slackware tend to like
> "minimalism" as a result they tend not to use Emacs

Really?  I thought Slackers were the smartest Linux hackers so they 
would use the smartest editor.  :)

> info.  (Understand this isn't a direct allegation against Zenwalk, it's
> just been something I've noticed in other Slackware derivatives).
> Slackware itself supports Emacs reasonably though.

I'm not entirely happy with ZW, so I may try Slack.  Minimalism in ZW 
includes a lack of install options, lots of missing fonts, no texinfo, 
nonfunctioning sound, and not the greatest online support in the world. 
  Oh, well.  At 400MB, it's a convenient download.

Re: info files

[David Combs]

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In article <mailman.430.1162212279.27805.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
Peter Dyballa  <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> wrote:
>
>Am 30.10.2006 um 05:17 schrieb Dan Bensen:
>
>> There are tons of .info.gz files in /usr/info, but Emacs info  
>> doesn't seem to see them.
>
>When you are in *info* and type C-x d (to enter dired mode): where  
>are you? If you're outside of /usr/info (presumingly in /usr/local/ 
>info), then you'll need to add /usr/info to the environment variable  
>INFOPATH. Or you set an INFOPATH environment variable in some init  
>file (site-start.el, .emacs) ...
>
>Check also that a ``dir´´ file exists that contains descriptions of  
>all info.gz files!

Is what you're talking about refer especially to linux?

Because I have no $INFOPATH, nor any dir44 files, yet info seems to work ok.

Maybe because I myself downloaded and compiled (gnu) emacs, on my
sunblade-100 solaris-9 system?

And, by hand I made 

Info-default-directory-list's value is 
("/big7/from_netcom-dir4/sources2-stuff/cvs-emacs--6apr05/info/" "/opt/csw/info/" "/opt/sfw/info/" "/usr/local/info/" "/ROOT-FOR--me-FIRST-in-PATH-tree/info" "/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir1/emacs-stuff/elisp-manual-21-2.8/" "/david3/from_netcom-dir2/perl-stuff/perl-info.5.004/info/" "/myexternals/opt/gnu/diffutils-2.7/info/" "/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir1/emacs-stuff/emacs-lisp-intro-2.04/" "/opt/sfw/lib/xemacs-21.1.14/info/" "/opt/csw/info/" "/usr/local/info/" "/usr/local/share/info/" "/usr/local/gnu/info/" "/usr/local/gnu/lib/info/" "/usr/local/gnu/lib/emacs/info/" "/usr/local/emacs/info/" "/usr/local/lib/info/" "/usr/local/lib/emacs/info/")



Puzzled about INFOPATH and dir44-files.

David

Re: info files

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs)
> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:25:47 +0000 (UTC)
> 
> Is what you're talking about refer especially to linux?

No.

> Because I have no $INFOPATH, nor any dir44 files, yet info seems to work ok.

When INFOPATH is not set, Emacs looks in a list of standard
directories, including the one where you installed Emacs.

I don't know about dir44, since I can find no references to such a
file in this thread.

Re: info files

[Robert Thorpe]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs)
> > Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:25:47 +0000 (UTC)
> >
> > Is what you're talking about refer especially to linux?
...
> I don't know about dir44, since I can find no references to such a
> file in this thread.

I think some newsreader has had a problem with character sets here.  To
Dave Combs: They are dir files if Info works on your system then you
have one, or more.