From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: david.reitter@gmail.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Icon designer wanted (Aquamacs Emacs) Date: 4 Jan 2006 04:40:22 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1136378422.426228.106470@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <54321A2A-3F36-4416-B473-49AC11FF057F@gmail.com> <853bk5gwa8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <792D87C1-B9A9-495E-9335-7139845D1CB0@gmail.com> <85irt10zcb.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1136385280 15947 80.91.229.2 (4 Jan 2006 14:34:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:34:40 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 04 15:34:38 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eu9iK-0007Ut-Go for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:34:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eu9jz-00044o-RE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 09:35:51 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 22 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.215.174.81 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1136378427 20031 127.0.0.1 (4 Jan 2006 12:40:27 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 12:40:27 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <85irt10zcb.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/416.12 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/416.13,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=129.215.174.81; posting-account=VxtxShIAAAAyATreB9RNYoFcRu4SpMFVEC9YFuAlbPn1KBMEY3FC1g Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:136792 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:32411 Archived-At: David Kastrup wrote: > David Reitter has explicitly stated that he will not bother making > sure that the material with which he is enhancing Aquamacs has the > required paperwork done. Sorry, that's not my job and not where I'm competent. Here's how Google's Eric Schmidt put it: "Programmers want to program, they don't want to do their laundry." What I can do is to make sure that the source is documented and the necessary paperwork can be obtained in case the Emacs project accepts some of the icons. The FSF is competent at this stuff, and I'm glad they're doing it. Anyways, the fact that we don't have paperwork for everything in Aquamacs doesn't make it less free and projects without the legal infrastructure aren't any less honourable (just less complete -- but we're unpaid volunteers, so please don't complain). And since we're doing this for mainly altruistic reasons (and fun), please consider that if you require everyone - even downstream projects - to maintain infrastructure, you will lose developers and maintainers. You remember that you lost a dedicated maintainer for exactly that reason, don't you?