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From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Enhancing ELisp for AI Work
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 21:20:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <112da2f7-eb5a-4112-9be0-29fa3d73045c@easy-emacs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvo711f6pf.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Hi all,

maybe let's forget ChatGPT in its current state, but refer to this phrase:

'''A probabilit text generator is bullshit generator. It cares zero of
the truth, it is program. Far from the real "intelligence".'''

IMO that's wrong from the human as from the machine side.

Human consider themself as intelligent. But how to proof that?

Humans can count. Really? If yes, why the first element of an index in 
famous programming languages is designated as Zero instead of One?

OTOH machines, asked: '''in french: "inversion accusatoire"'''

Response was:

'''La "inversion accusatoire" en français est appelée "passif" ou 
"inversion de sujet" en grammaire.

En Odoo, l'inversion accusatoire se réfère à l'ordre des mots dans une 
phrase qui est inversé par rapport à la règle générale. En français, la 
règle générale est que le sujet de la phrase doit être mis en premier, 
suivie du verbe et ensuite de l'objet.

Exemple de phrase normale : Le client achète un produit.

Inversion accusatoire : Un produit achète le client.

En Odoo, l'inversion accusatoire est utilisée pour formatter les 
informations dans les rapports ou les vues, par exemple, pour définir 
l'ordre des champs dans une formulaire.

J'espère que cela vous a aidé !'''

Obviously the context assumed by the LLM was false. But none was delivered.

Inside the false context, the conclusion is quite interesting. Because 
‘achetere’ -- buying -- wasn't mentioned at all. In an abstract view, 
the reasoning might well have sense. There are other remarks in this 
response, which indicate the model was able to abstract over the matter.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-25 20:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <7290780.2375960.1734348492938.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2024-12-16 11:28 ` Enhancing ELisp for AI Work Andrew Goh via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-16 13:39   ` Jean Louis
2024-12-16 14:55   ` Tomáš Petit
2024-12-16 16:26     ` Jean Louis
2024-12-16 17:38     ` Jean Louis
2024-12-17  6:24       ` Tomáš Petit
2024-12-17 10:29         ` Jean Louis
2024-12-17 10:34         ` Jean Louis
2024-12-17 11:40           ` Tomáš Petit
2024-12-17 21:35             ` Jean Louis
2024-12-18  5:04               ` tomas
2024-12-24 10:57               ` Andreas Röhler
2024-12-24 15:25                 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-25 20:20                   ` Andreas Röhler [this message]
2024-12-24 16:22                 ` Christopher Howard
2024-12-26  6:06                   ` Joel Reicher
2024-12-24 21:27                 ` Jean Louis
2024-12-24 21:58                 ` Is ChatGPT bullshit? tomas

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