From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ajanta Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Software/HD ecology (was Re:...Bug in Emacs 21.3.50) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:14:23 GMT Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <101220021416559254%ajanta@no.spam> References: <041220020952400758%ajanta@no.spam> <56cfb0e3.0212041458.5eab182a@posting.google.com> <061220020416350201%ajanta@no.spam> <5l3cpalpa1.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <071220020055513124%ajanta@no.spam> <071220021155280606%ajanta@no.spam> <5ld6obj8il.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <091220021652087216%ajanta@no.spam> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1039551996 11137 80.91.224.249 (10 Dec 2002 20:26:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:26:36 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Lqxf-0002tN-00 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:26:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18Lqs1-0000hO-00 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:20:45 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssrv26.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.text.tex,gnu.emacs.help Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Thoth/1.5.10 (Carbon/OS X) Original-Lines: 33 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.37.176.120 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net Original-X-Trace: newssrv26.news.prodigy.com 1039554863 ST000 67.37.176.120 (Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:14:23 CST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:14:23 CST X-UserInfo1: [[PA@SBE[JTKB\@[GRNNOTPAUSXB@DTMNHWB_EYLJZ]BGIEL_NTKAH_[JTXDX_KI\VB]JBVMS^YT_G[CZVWAOS\DHFWEH]@KGXYHB\_CMDSFABP^J[AHHRKARLE_JDBLJ\XA[JRMEI]MGJSPB\Y]^KG\@S^@VQKI_Q[G@@_ACSARASDEFLBJ]S\GFNTUAVBL Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu comp.sys.mac.apps:348515 gnu.emacs.help:107968 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:4505 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:4505 Phillip Lord wrote: > At the end of the day, Stefan's point, that hard drive space is not > worth the effort saving it would entail, is true. I didn't get my point across. The problem is not of space but clutter. If you see some trash thrown around somewhere, it is not necessarily occupying a large % of the space or volume. But it is still clutter, that would add up. However, I would concede that tolerance for or aversion to such things is probably a matter of personal taste. > Hard drive space is cheap, while people are expensive. Of course it would be some effort to clean up an old warehouse, but keeping a house clean, if done regularly with good habits in the first place, is not such a big deal. So is the case with software. > I current have six versions of emacs on my hard drive, because I've not > got around to deleting pretest versions. Your life, your choice. I just picked up a toast that had fallen on the floor. My lunch, my choice. :) But to guest or even in a soup kitchen, I wouldn't do that. Standards are different when you are serving others, with or without charge. > I can understand why the emacs maintainers don't want to spend time on > it. Other might though, and they should probably be the ones to submit > patches! I think it is a matter of overall awareness, and also some discipline being imposed by the people who are in-charge. A