From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Tu, Do" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: A package in a league of its own: Helm Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 09:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <0e52cfc6-d6ed-4b45-bbd3-2cdd13fcc91b@googlegroups.com> References: <787f8d86-dede-4627-b4e5-3658a1833455@googlegroups.com> <73520ac0-9fc0-42ce-8a15-cc400b6f8308@googlegroups.com> <672a0d66-bc48-4b7a-9279-c7d631a03f79@googlegroups.com> <871trvjpnx.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409590837 26993 80.91.229.3 (1 Sep 2014 17:00:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 17:00:37 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 01 19:00:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XOUxr-0002pr-PH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:00:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33049 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XOUxr-00077r-FR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 13:00:23 -0400 X-Received: by 10.66.155.194 with SMTP id vy2mr16213337pab.19.1409590795542; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 09:59:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.29.13 with SMTP id f13mr372974igh.15.1409590795438; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 09:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!r2no12203562igi.0!news-out.google.com!aw9ni2087igc.0!nntp.google.com!r2no12203552igi.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=14.161.13.65; posting-account=c2AWuQoAAACA36o69JJJEmXY5MOg4YNp Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 14.161.13.65 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 16:59:55 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:207289 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99566 Archived-At: I think helm-find-files is much better than stock ido-find-file or even ido= -find-file because: - It has fuzzy matching by default. You have to install flx to get fuzzy ma= tching in ido. - Some people find that Ido horizontal listing is messy, so they create `id= o-vertical-mode` for cleaner looking. With Helm, you get this by default wi= th its interface. If you worry the Helm buffer is a bit big, you can always= customize its size. - It has highlighting on candidates depend on types: directory has a color,= plain file has a color, executable has a color, shell script has a color. - Depends on what file type your highlighting candidate is, Helm opens it a= ppropriately. For example, if you RET on a directory, Helm opens dired; if = you RET on a file, Helm opens that file. You can also customize the applica= tion to open the files. Stock find-file at least can open directory; Ido si= mply can't. - You can open multiple files with helm-find-files by marking with C-SPC an= d press RET. If you want to everything at current directory, you can use M-= a to mark all then RET. You can even use wildcard expression like stock fin= d-file - Helm has a list of actions to apply on your files: checksum file, open fi= le externally, switch to eshell, grep, diff... - Helm is compatible with both Linux and Windows path. Ido can't; you have = to drop into stock find-file. V=C3=A0o 23:49:00 UTC+7 Th=E1=BB=A9 hai, ng=C3=A0y 01 th=C3=A1ng ch=C3=ADn = n=C4=83m 2014, York Zhao =C4=91=C3=A3 vi=E1=BA=BFt: > I've been using Helm for many years, and it has been a fundamental part o= f my >=20 > Emacs system. However, I also don't like `helm-find-file', and I agree id= o is >=20 > much better in this. By the way, in `helm-find-file', you may want to try= using >=20 > the left arrow to go to the parent directory, not as good as in ido but s= till >=20 > usable. Having said that, I think other than "find file", helm is great i= n >=20 > anything else.