From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Rising Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: shell-command, its relatives, and aliases Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:44:38 -0600 Message-ID: <08924353-0B02-45C0-8785-BA784E694037@mac.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1227289525 8512 80.91.229.12 (21 Nov 2008 17:45:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Kevin Rodgers Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 21 18:46:29 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L3a5K-0000cq-Tc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:46:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55313 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L3a4C-00063Q-0e for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:45:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L3WJS-00026h-2h for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:44:46 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L3WJQ-00024b-GK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:44:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45967 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L3WJQ-00024U-DJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:44:44 -0500 Original-Received: from asmtpout011.mac.com ([17.148.16.86]:41729) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L3WJO-0005Ou-AX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:44:42 -0500 Original-Received: from goliath.stata.com (zeus.stata.com [208.180.238.126]) by asmtp011.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KAO00J2VRIFUV40@asmtp011.mac.com> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:44:40 -0800 (PST) In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:40:12 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:60005 Archived-At: On Nov 14, 2008, at 7:22 , Kevin Rodgers wrote: > Bill Rising wrote: >> I would like to use aliases in (shell-command ...) or (call-process >> region ...). Even if I tell the latter to behave as a login shell, >> and make sure that the aliases are available to the login shell, I >> cannot get them to execute. >> The shell can see the aliases without any problem, because I can >> send the -alias- command and get the list of aliases. >> It seems to me that elisp is trying to see if the command is >> defined before running it, instead of simply letting the shell chew >> on whatever was sent to it. This could be a grave misconception. >> In any case, is there are way to be able to use aliases within any >> of the 'execute this line/region without starting a buffer with a >> shell' commands? > > call-process-region does not invoke the shell at all. If you want to > use any shell features (e.g. redirection, aliases) you need to use > shell-command-on-region. OK. > There are several ways to make aliases available in the shell invoked > by Emacs. I would just explicitly read the shell definitions e.g. > > M-| . ~/my_aliases.bash && alias_1 arg_1 > > Or you could create the ~/.emacs_bash file and read the shell > definitions there (automatically) -- see the Interactive Shell > node of the Emacs manual. I created the ~/.emacs_bash file, and it sources the ~/.bash_aliases I have defined. I'll go back and fiddle with (shell-commmand-on-region ...) again. Thanks, Bill