From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ajanta Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs 21.3.50 on Mac OSX 10.2.2 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 07:53:28 GMT Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <071220020055513124%ajanta@no.spam> References: <041220020952400758%ajanta@no.spam> <56cfb0e3.0212041458.5eab182a@posting.google.com> <061220020416350201%ajanta@no.spam> <061220021433180478%ajanta@no.spam> <5l3cpalpa1.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1039284614 20623 80.91.224.249 (7 Dec 2002 18:10:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 18:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18KjOn-0005Ju-00 for ; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 19:09:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18Kj9R-0005z2-02 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:54:05 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!c03.atl99!rip!news.webusenet.com!prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssrv26.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.text.tex,gnu.emacs.help Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Thoth/1.5.9 (Carbon/OS X) Original-Lines: 49 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.36.190.153 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net Original-X-Trace: newssrv26.news.prodigy.com 1039247608 ST000 67.36.190.153 (Sat, 07 Dec 2002 01:53:28 CST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 01:53:28 CST X-UserInfo1: [[PAPDCA[S@QBQLXBBN@^RLBPJ]TPUDO@HTHOCULF@^PGDTFOG[]FKKZE\]^HRWI[FCWJF^NB^[D_DSBR^RC^QPFTFUCYRDIH@\FCQKBITUT@EP_[CAFHTC@GLDKZHBMGDXCJINMCA\]GG[RH\^MOM[\BK[NVPWKYAYIPOG@SK@ZA]DE[\AP]_DFU^T]A\VM Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu comp.sys.mac.apps:348261 comp.text.tex:237551 gnu.emacs.help:107826 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:4383 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:4383 Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>>>> "Ajanta" == Ajanta writes: > > 1. There seem to be *three* executables of identical size (my disk is > > not full, but why waste 16MB if one doesn't have to?): > > /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs* > > /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/bin/emacs* > > /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/bin/emacs-21.3.50* > > Check their inodes: they should be hardlinks and thus wasting even less > space than symlinks. I am not familar with inodes. However, I do remember that the dir size decreases by 16MB when I moved the files out. I played around like that and the disk space seemed real. Anyway, why do we need three executables two of which seem to do nothing? > What kind of machine are you running this on ? Powerbook, 10.2.2, a few weeks old. > I ask because my machine is about 6 years old by now and yet 50MB of > disk space is not a big concern. This is not just rhetorical: the > version 21.3.50 you're using is significantly larger than 21.2 and > this was the result of a conscious decision, so I'd be interested to hear > of how serious a problem it might be. I don't have a space crunch yet. I just want to get in to the habit of not accumulating things that aren't needed. In the release 21.3.50, Emacs.app is approx 120MB. > > 3. When running emacs, "preference" panel in toolbar is broken. > > It is generally safe to assume that "broken" is a hopelessly useless > characterization of a behavior. Please expand. It is "unhighlighted" in the mac style. You can't open the panel. > > 4. The window is normal video (black text on white background). > > I would prefer reverse video (white text on black background) ... > Maybe the -rv option ? Otherwise, M-x customize-face RET default RET > and change the foreground/background colors. Don't know how to give the -rv option when I am clicking on an icon in the dock, which is how I'd mostly run this program. In most mac-style apps I would expect to set such things in a Preferences panel. Anyway, I'll try the customize-face way that you suggested. A