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From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Rationale behind conversion of a nil prefix arg to numeric 1
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 19:11:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <06d4a7f1-f116-fb5c-9bd2-c4d1f98934c9@easy-emacs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83oa43d9r8.fsf@gnu.org>



On 04.09.2016 16:23, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2016 14:23:35 +0200
>> From: florian@fsavigny.de (Florian v. Savigny)
>>
>> Naively, I used the numeric conversion of the prefix arg, i.e.
>>
>>     (interactive "p")
>>
>> which passes the prefix arg converted to a number. However, if I call
>> the function with no prefix argument, which is, expectedly, nil in raw
>> form, it converts this to the number 1. (This is what
>> `prefix-numeric-value' does, as explained in the docstring.)
>>
>> While I understand that this is how it is done, I am quite puzzled
>> about the logic behind this. It would seem intuitive to me to convert
>> nil to either the number 0 or, again, nil, but never to the number
>> 1. And practically, converting nil to 1 has the consequence that
>> calling the command with no prefix arg:
>>
>>     M-x command
>>
>> is exactly the same as calling it with a prefix arg of 1:
>>
>>     C-u 1 M-x command
>>
>> because the prefix arg converted to a number is 1 in both cases, which
>> reduces the number of possibilities of calling the command by one.
>>
>> I can circumvent this (and get the behaviour that I would expect) by
>> writing the function with
>>
>>     (if current-prefix-arg (prefix-numeric-value current-prefix-arg))
>>
>> in an explicit interactive list, but I am still wondering about the
>> rationale of representing nil as the number one. Does this make sense,
>> or is it useful, in some way?
> Yes.  Most commands use the argument as a repeat count, so having it
> default to one makes perfect sense.
>

There a difference between "p" sending 1 and nil - which is the result 
from non-interactive use.
If a function needs a repeat count, it should provide some.




  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-04 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-04 12:23 Rationale behind conversion of a nil prefix arg to numeric 1 Florian v. Savigny
2016-09-04 14:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-04 17:11   ` Andreas Röhler [this message]
2016-09-04 18:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-05  7:16       ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-05 14:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-05 15:22           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-09-05 16:32             ` Drew Adams
2016-09-05 18:41             ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-05 19:02               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-06  7:10                 ` tomas
2016-09-06  9:45                   ` Florian v. Savigny
2016-09-06 10:27                     ` tomas
2016-09-06 11:27                     ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-06 13:27                       ` Florian v. Savigny
2016-09-06 15:22                         ` Drew Adams
2016-09-06 14:20                       ` Kaushal Modi
2016-09-06 16:44                         ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-06 16:41                           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-09-07 23:11                         ` Charles Millar
2016-09-08 13:10                           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-09-08 14:42                             ` Charles Millar
2016-09-08 15:40                           ` Drew Adams
2016-09-06  7:22                 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-05 17:04         ` Drew Adams
2016-09-05 21:39           ` Florian v. Savigny
     [not found]           ` <<877faqvxfp.fsf@bertrandrussell.Speedport_W_723V_1_40_000>
2016-09-05 23:32             ` Drew Adams
2016-09-06  3:45               ` B.V. Raghav
2016-09-04 22:53   ` Florian v. Savigny
     [not found]   ` <<87d1kjjmys.fsf@bertrandrussell.Speedport_W_723V_1_40_000>
2016-09-05  0:52     ` Drew Adams
2016-09-15 12:47 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen

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