From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Emacs's popularity (was: Distributed Maintenance for Emacs) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:19:00 -0800 Message-ID: <00ad01c95f03$21fae080$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <2103fd36-c5cd-4e8d-a74f-34697a369934@a26g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <003101c954de$f95a3000$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <87skop8cc7.fsf@iki.fi> <20081215210907.GB3848@groll.co.za> <00aa01c95f00$fc27b830$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1229380108 17712 80.91.229.12 (15 Dec 2008 22:28:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Jonathan Groll' , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, 'Teemu Likonen' To: "'Lennart Borgman'" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 15 23:29:31 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LCLwH-0004P3-Q9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:29:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46102 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LCLv5-0002hB-Lx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:28:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LCLmM-0006NL-1x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:19:06 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LCLmJ-0006L3-RZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:19:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37324 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LCLmJ-0006Kr-Kb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:19:03 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet12.oracle.com ([141.146.126.234]:64895) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LCLmJ-0001Xx-CS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:19:03 -0500 Original-Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by acsinet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mBFMIaQo000419 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:18:37 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt700.oracle.com (acsmt700.oracle.com [141.146.40.70]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mBFMJ4jE006480; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:19:05 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.82.150) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:18:54 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AclfAZI/jhVp0NufSBeRuZZ7m2fhZgAANnXg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Source-IP: acsmt700.oracle.com [141.146.40.70] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A01020A.4946D7D0.0198:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:60654 Archived-At: > It might also be worthwhile thinking about why vi clones are more > popular than Emacs. Maybe, if specific vi features are found to be important to that popularity and those features (or similar) might also make sense for Emacs. IOW, (1) yes, one can always learn from others, and (2) the devil is in the details. General lamentation about the relative popularity of Emacs wrt vi, TextPad, or anything else is what I don't understand.