From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Tom Davey" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: State of the art in Emacs outlining? Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 00:49:25 -0400 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <002101c26773$9a581900$030ba8c0@petronius.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033275085 30233 127.0.0.1 (29 Sep 2002 04:51:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 04:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17vW39-0007rN-00 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 06:51:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17vW3B-0004hS-00; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 00:51:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17vW21-0004Zx-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 00:50:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17vW1y-0004Zl-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 00:50:12 -0400 Original-Received: from user-112vvrr.biz.mindspring.com ([66.47.255.123] helo=dmz1.sifry.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17vW1x-0004Zb-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 00:50:10 -0400 Original-Received: from trimalchio (66-108-249-34.nyc.rr.com [66.108.249.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by dmz1.sifry.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Debian -5) with ESMTP id g8T4o4PD001476 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 21:50:05 -0700 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:2013 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:2013 Is there a preferred elisp package (or combination) in use today for Emacs outlining? I am a little confused by the several packages out there -- outline.el, of course, and allout.el and folding.el and others less known that promise improvements to outline.el -- and I thought I'd ask about them before jumping in to learn one.=20 I'm mainly interesting in ordinary document production rather than outlining for source code files, but all thoughts are gratefully welcomed.=20 Kai, I read through the thread on emacs-devel called "ill-advised changes [was key bindings in hideshow.el]" (Feb. 2001), which discusses outline major-mode and the desirability of an "always-on" structual overview utility and which includes posts between yourself and RMS, but this newbie is still a bit confused. :-) Thanks, Tom Davey --=20 Tom Davey tom@tomdavey.com blog: http://www.monstersfromtheid.com/