* can't get "help"
@ 2007-11-05 3:56 cycjec
2007-11-05 15:26 ` Joel J. Adamson
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From: cycjec @ 2007-11-05 3:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
this is the emacs that's installed on a FreeBSD system.
I get the opening msg "Hold down Control and press h"
but when I do that it just eats up the msg about "this
buffer is for blah blah blah" one character at a time,
starting at the end.
I can get a list of commands in an old Mandrake install
but the cursor seems to be stuck in the scratch buffer,
I can't scroll down the list.
I have a book. I have been looking in it but can't
find what I want.
I also can't find how to move to the top or the end
of a buffer.
Any help immensely appreciated.
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* Re: can't get "help"
2007-11-05 3:56 can't get "help" cycjec
@ 2007-11-05 15:26 ` Joel J. Adamson
2007-11-05 17:19 ` cycjec
2007-11-05 18:07 ` cycjec
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From: Joel J. Adamson @ 2007-11-05 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
"cycjec"<cycjec@yahoo.com> writes:
> this is the emacs that's installed on a FreeBSD system.
>
> I get the opening msg "Hold down Control and press h"
> but when I do that it just eats up the msg about "this
> buffer is for blah blah blah" one character at a time,
> starting at the end.
Are you using Emacs in X, on a console, or a terminal emulator? Which
version of Emacs (21, 22?)
Try f1 for help instead of C-h, your terminal may be sending C-h as
delete. F1 C-f gets you the FAQ
(hopefully you understand the above key notation: "C-x" means "hold
down Control key and press 'x'")
HTH
Joel
--
Joel J. Adamson
Biostatistician
Pediatric Psychopharmacology Research Unit
Massachusetts General Hospital
Boston, MA 02114
(617) 643-1432
(303) 880-3109
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* Re: can't get "help"
2007-11-05 15:26 ` Joel J. Adamson
@ 2007-11-05 17:19 ` cycjec
2007-11-05 19:33 ` Joel J. Adamson
2007-11-05 18:07 ` cycjec
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: cycjec @ 2007-11-05 17:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Joel J. Adamson <jadamson@partners.org> wrote:
> "cycjec"<cycjec@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> this is the emacs that's installed on a FreeBSD system.
> Are you using Emacs in X, on a console, or a terminal emulator? Which
> version of Emacs (21, 22?)
I'm trying an older version in X, and a newer one (I think)
in a shell account.
The shell account is version 21.3.1
M-x emacs-version is how to find that out. I looked in the
FAQ but haven't yet seen it there. It's in a back post in
the NG archive.
> Try f1 for help instead of C-h, your terminal may be sending C-h as
> delete. F1 C-f gets you the FAQ
Thank you. Thank you!
This works in the X version.
I now am perplexed at why
Meta-V scrolls up but the Meta-< and Meta-> don't go to
the file top or end. (It's actually the Alt-> and Alt-<
but the Alt-V works just fine)
I get this msg "No M-x tags search ... in progress"
The F1 doesn't do *anything* in the shell account emacs,
which is the newer one, or I have not quite got the right
rhythm, or something... half the time the "M-x emacs-version"
doesn't show up in the bottom line either.
> (hopefully you understand the above key notation: "C-x" means "hold
> down Control key and press 'x'")
Yes, I can C-x C-f and move around in a file but reading the
FAQ or tutorial helps. (I can do that in the xterm emacs)
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* Re: can't get "help"
2007-11-05 17:19 ` cycjec
@ 2007-11-05 19:33 ` Joel J. Adamson
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Joel J. Adamson @ 2007-11-05 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
"cycjec"<cycjec@yahoo.com> writes:
> Joel J. Adamson <jadamson@partners.org> wrote:
>> "cycjec"<cycjec@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>>> this is the emacs that's installed on a FreeBSD system.
>
>> Are you using Emacs in X, on a console, or a terminal emulator? Which
>> version of Emacs (21, 22?)
>
> I'm trying an older version in X, and a newer one (I think)
> in a shell account.
You should ask them (administrators) to upgrade: Emacs 22 includes
lots of improvements. Emacs 23 (CVS) is even sweeter. Also, there's
really no reason to run without X, unless you are using a system
without X installed ;)
Which version of FreeBSD? If you have your own machine, I suggest
installing Emacs and immersing yourself in it: it's available for
many MANY operating systems, well, at least any of the three you're
likely to have ;)
>> Try f1 for help instead of C-h, your terminal may be sending C-h as
>> delete. F1 C-f gets you the FAQ
>
> Thank you. Thank you!
>
> This works in the X version.
>
> I now am perplexed at why
> Meta-V scrolls up but the Meta-< and Meta-> don't go to
> the file top or end. (It's actually the Alt-> and Alt-<
> but the Alt-V works just fine)
>
> I get this msg "No M-x tags search ... in progress"
tags searching is invoked by M-.: your terminal isn't interpreting the
shift key.
I suggest looking on Emacs wiki for dealing with terminal problems, as
these are quite common complains (Emacs doesn't respect the C-h
convention, although I configured it to!).
(global-set-key "\C-h" 'help-command)
in the scratch buffer or your .emacs file will reset C-h to the help
system. Press "C-x C-e" to evaluate the above expression.
Joel
--
Joel J. Adamson
Biostatistician
Pediatric Psychopharmacology Research Unit
Massachusetts General Hospital
Boston, MA 02114
(617) 643-1432
(303) 880-3109
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* Re: can't get "help"
2007-11-05 15:26 ` Joel J. Adamson
2007-11-05 17:19 ` cycjec
@ 2007-11-05 18:07 ` cycjec
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: cycjec @ 2007-11-05 18:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Joel J. Adamson <jadamson@partners.org> wrote:
> Try f1 for help instead of C-h, your terminal may be sending C-h as
> delete. F1 C-f gets you the FAQ
On-line Help, Printed Manuals, Other Sources of Help
That's exactly what it's doing. From the FAQ:
13: I'm just starting Emacs; how do I do basic editing?
Type "C-h t" to invoke the self-paced tutorial. Just typing `C-h' enters
the help system.
WARNING: Your system administrator may have changed `C-h' to act like DEL
to deal with local keyboards. You can use M-x help-for-help instead to
invoke help. To discover what key (if any) invokes help on your system,
type "M-x where-is RET help-for-help RET". This will print a
comma-separated list of key sequences in the echo area. Ignore the last
character in each key sequence listed. Each of the resulting key
sequences invokes help.
NOTE: Emacs help works best if it is invoked by a single key whose value
should be stored in the variable help-char.
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