Emacs color names

Emacs color names

[Emanuel Schmid]

Hi

I'm trying to make some step forward from emacs 21 to emacs 23. I mainly 
use it for VHDL.

Currently I don't get decent colour names if I'm running through putty, 
as described in 
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/PuTTY for emacs 21 and 22, but the remedy 
there doesn't help.

Further, it seems that VHDL mode is not correctly working even in an 
xterm, where the colour names appear correctly (with spaces in the name 
though?).

Does anyone have ideas/experience about this?

Thanks,
Emanuel

PS: please keep me on CC

Re: Emacs color names

[Gary]

Emanuel Schmid writes:

> Currently I don't get decent colour names if I'm running through putty, 
> as described in 
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/PuTTY for emacs 21 and 22

TBH I don't think it's exclusive to putty. I also get (mostly)
incomprehensible names when I try to use completion when customising a
face -
black          blue           brightblack    brightblue     brightcyan
brightgreen    brightmagenta  brightred      brightwhite    brightyellow
color-100      color-101      color-102      color-103      color-104
(etc.)

-- 
Gary

Re: Emacs color names

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Gary <help-gnu-emacs@garydjones.name>
> Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 19:09:59 +0200
> Cc: 
> 
> Emanuel Schmid writes:
> 
> > Currently I don't get decent colour names if I'm running through putty, 
> > as described in 
> > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/PuTTY for emacs 21 and 22
> 
> TBH I don't think it's exclusive to putty. I also get (mostly)
> incomprehensible names when I try to use completion when customising a
> face -
> black          blue           brightblack    brightblue     brightcyan
> brightgreen    brightmagenta  brightred      brightwhite    brightyellow
> color-100      color-101      color-102      color-103      color-104
> (etc.)

That's normal, assuming that you use a 256-color xterm.

Why is that a problem?  If you need to know how each color looks like,
just use "M-x list-colors-display RET".

Re: Emacs color names

[Gary .]

On 5/11/10, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Gary
>> Emanuel Schmid writes:
>> > Currently I don't get decent colour names if I'm running through putty,
...
>> TBH I don't think it's exclusive to putty. I also get (mostly)
>> incomprehensible names when I try to use completion when customising a
>> face
...
> That's normal, assuming that you use a 256-color xterm.

Normal it might be. Useful it's not (at least to me).

> Why is that a problem?  If you need to know how each color looks like,
> just use "M-x list-colors-display RET".

Well, yeah, I could take a few extra steps, but I just happen to think that
is what computers are good for. Moreover, the information does exist - face
definitions quite often use (somewhat) meaningful names. I see no reason
why the customization of faces shouldn't use those names throughout as
"normal" behaviour.

(Sorry for possibly derailing your thread, Emanuel :-( )

Re: Emacs color names

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 08:18:47 +0200
> From: "Gary ." <help-gnu-emacs@garydjones.name>
> Cc: 
> 
> Moreover, the information does exist - face definitions quite often
> use (somewhat) meaningful names.

That's unrelated: Emacs transparently maps colors using their RGB
values, so any of the colors you see in tty-colors.el will be mapped
to the "native" colors whose names you don't like.

So those names are not very important.  Of course, if you want to
propose a change in xterm.el which would present more meaningful
"native" names, that's fine, too.