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It runs now the > > > majority of Internet, people pay for VPS-es, it is just everywhere, > > > well spread=2E > >=20 > > Because the non-profit obsession is basically a dislike of those who a= re > > successful=2E >=20 > I cannot agree as I worked in many non-profits=2E It is not about > disliking others rather the difference in motivation=2E I never have > seen anybody in a non-profit disliking people or members who are > owners of a company with profit=2E In fact, those businessman were > respected for their deeds=2E You are correct=2E It is not about non-profits disliking business=2E It is about those people who only value non-profit=2E It=E2=80=99s not hard to start a nonprofit=2E The barriers to entry is pre= tty low=2E It costs a few hundred dollars and a few hours=2E But then what? Running a nonprofit and growing it to a size where it can effectively serve something takes resources=2E=20 I know what you're thinking=2E You're looking at the amount of money that's being raised by organizations that are fighting to protect rights and freedoms threatened in the current political climate=2E Surely your idea will be worthy of some of these donations=2E Yes, it's true that donating has become a thing=2E And it has significantly benefited a handful of organizations=2E But those organizations have some infrastructure already in place to be able to handle increased demand=2E