From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pankaj Jangid Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: Hardware respecting your freedom Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 20:45:07 +0530 Organization: Code Is Great Foundation Message-ID: References: <777a890b-cc3f-5338-4eea-129b66c29451@yandex.ru> <6ce4b6fa-d0ae-14dd-a5d1-f2b27080b3c3@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34548"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, Richard Stallman , bugs@gnu.support, dgutov@yandex.ru, eliz@gnu.org, ak@akirakyle.com To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 23 17:27:01 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kVyy4-0008qV-NH for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 17:27:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37314 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVyy3-0002P9-Is for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 11:26:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56384) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVymm-00057r-Ga for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 11:15:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-x641.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::641]:43763) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVymg-00080E-Gf for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 11:15:16 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-x641.google.com with SMTP id o9so1054171plx.10 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 08:15:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=codeisgreat-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:mail-followup-to:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=ThcfbvycVRBxySV41Rrkx+NeoXOEW68cCMDut9o3z5s=; b=SZVIvnXA8ZMXYrJvv6NjGlgoNWJZApQyOC8bfSHwMKSabK570tU9TLjIP9dgySL8UE S+iEDKRaSP0Gf30XelqL81KF5jejHA4PHGN79pWxsUiTGIJoAcykCTB38tCwBQkb+bX2 BsiYkPwMyf+QqIGelhPbT5+n3Hv6fupAk2Jac2EDHLhDr5ztFy7FHWZz41Lfge397LvQ ZuhuIR065eiX6OD99C7uaqO0bMKUld/LvMBm8fCPcvlFaboJ+Gcc9mtu0oYDknN5EcxO 3mAw/fRqTQ6ZURodHq+oTiFqlhX6vkTg3XnyRhjjq1K8efLFhKsWo90/hYr2tPe4tlub G1aw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references :mail-followup-to:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version; bh=ThcfbvycVRBxySV41Rrkx+NeoXOEW68cCMDut9o3z5s=; b=F+6sosrEjaBuZfsMfRLcEC4uevXTHbQ1spvyagdc6/jOl2YpPFYyxb/xP2S4NyB9KR JLQMgY/GXWY8Wk7tbbSAox3WZU4IlgUziOyyrELtnk8o7aJNu7jVKjORT7QF7hOTHZFB p6EvKIuq2HcLrt/U/Po/mb+WEXvPw3QCwEKTI/F0u78f6op0tzyPXrnZrRzrwwbI50mI djNXMja8JaR0nY160mdSMuXJVpAOz4e3hXkIdDXYt/4sLKwkuiKNOH2IvVtPFHKuUarP 04B8X18roigiJT0uZQwtK6/JW4zBTdxKpOG7lcOKhx9V1xg+H3V5ewzTlv5Hz+y9mmRI r2Yw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532Xx/tylEUPzoE5y9RZZb3lzp3HiE25nEW9uLDgNOqDvXu8Ew9Q f1yE0ZcmYIqh+Ig7ovBpIYGp7w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxH9NZECR0JdcGlrggGEd+6eojznkr6EWbqQ91jhgrZP6VBAdBKJjhIESQ2OptuoF/+X/z3Uw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:a717:b029:d6:e91:d02b with SMTP id w23-20020a170902a717b02900d60e91d02bmr2639747plq.23.1603466112249; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 08:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from mb2.local ([2405:201:5c06:7059:643f:25b7:b890:36f9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e196sm2465402pfh.128.2020.10.23.08.15.09 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 23 Oct 2020 08:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Mail-Followup-To: Arthur Miller , Richard Stallman , ak@akirakyle.com, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-tangents@gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, dgutov@yandex.ru In-Reply-To: (Arthur Miller's message of "Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:53:26 +0200") Received-SPF: none client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::641; envelope-from=pankaj.jangid@codeisgreat.com; helo=mail-pl1-x641.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:434 Archived-At: Arthur Miller writes: > Gnome was a reaction to KDE to build a desktop on a completely Free > toolkit, and was answer to KDE guys choosing Qt as a base for the > desktop. That is true. Harmoney and GNOME projects were launched to counter the non-free KDE. Harmoney's aim was to provide Qt compatible APIs. And this forced KDE to release Qt under LGPL.