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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
Cc: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>, Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>,
	emacs-tangents@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Free software politics, not world politics please
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 16:42:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YrcQyhCXK6OTo8mQ@protected.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877d557x21.fsf@mbork.pl>

* Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> [2022-06-25 15:22]:
> 
> On 2022-06-25, at 12:41, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
> 
> > By promoting delivery of weapons Herr Uwe Brauer also promotes
> > continuance of further killing in Ukraine.
> 
> While I do not claim that Uwe should or should not delete his signature
> (my personal opinion is he need not delete it, but I am not 100% sure it
> doesn't conflict with this list's standards), I feel obliged to point
> out that the above opinion of Jean looks nonsensical.  From what I know,
> Ukrainians do their best to _stop_ the war, and I find it probable that
> what they are doing is a _just war_
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_war_theory).

However, I do not mind that. 


I just say it is not place in GNU or Emacs to discuss about it, as the
mailing list remains public for long time, it is on Internet and
becomes part of databases of many search engines:

https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/

And we shall avoid "other politics" but keep "free software politics".

People reading what we are promoting may feel rejected and we get
division.

It is NOT alright to keep signature such as promoting delivery of
weapons to Ukraine for the sake of millions of people in Ukraine who
are in danger exaclty because of shelling for last 8 years there.

It is sensitive issue. Otherwise we could get all the nazis to promote
their hatred views in their signatures. 

There are many wars in the world.

What GNU does as community is bringing people together.

Any time that peope talk to each other and find understanding such as
in Emacs or anything else -- that brings humanity one step forward.

-- 
Jean

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-25 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87wnd6w63j.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
     [not found] ` <a53eff9a-fada-4730-8394-f1e0ba212261@yandex.ru>
     [not found]   ` <87r13ew318.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
     [not found]     ` <58467AD5-AF41-4356-9B06-D7A8B15D79BE@gnu.support>
     [not found]       ` <871qvef4j6.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
     [not found]         ` <Yrav8ajZDxNNsMuw@protected.localdomain>
     [not found]           ` <ae0a24f9-0995-d907-4eed-657c7e615c63@yandex.ru>
2022-06-25 10:41             ` Free software politics, not world politics please Jean Louis
2022-06-25 12:11               ` Uwe Brauer
2022-06-25 12:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-25 13:36                 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-25 14:12                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-25 12:21               ` Marcin Borkowski
2022-06-25 13:42                 ` Jean Louis [this message]
     [not found]         ` <YrbWFKi6BN86wnYU@protected.localdomain>
     [not found]           ` <87edzdx7qs.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
2022-06-25 13:19             ` [what's wrong with you] (was: Weniger labern bitte) Jean Louis

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