From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: 2022-06-06 Emacs news Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2022 10:21:41 +0300 Message-ID: References: <878rq9gjse.fsf@sachachua.com> <877d5tt6lq.fsf@dataswamp.org> <070C51E6-B75F-46A1-B04D-C565D254BEAC@gnu.support> <87o7z4r4or.fsf@dataswamp.org> <0A407E62-54E2-44BB-942C-9279D490C849@gnu.support> <87sfofrvlg.fsf@mbork.pl> <87o7z2s9w8.fsf@mbork.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40686"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/+ () (2022-05-21) Cc: Tom Davey , Emanuel Berg , "emacs-tangents@gnu.org" To: Marcin Borkowski Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 09 09:54:42 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nzD05-000ANQ-Vd for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 09:54:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54706 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzD04-0002Li-GD for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 03:54:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55078) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzCym-0002J3-N7 for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 03:53:20 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:60407) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzCyk-0002kd-2v for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 03:53:19 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:154.230.209.155]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000087C4E.0000000062A1A6EA.00006CFA; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 00:53:13 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87o7z2s9w8.fsf@mbork.pl> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:871 Archived-At: * Marcin Borkowski [2022-06-09 08:06]: > > On 2022-06-08, at 21:19, Jean Louis wrote: > > > On June 8, 2022 4:03:23 PM UTC, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > > > > Instead, you can use filtering and create email folder just for > > single mailing list. It will not bother you unless you look into > > the folder. > > > > And I use sorting by thread in Mutt email client, with single key I can delete whole of the thread. > > > > With few email settings, reading becomes joy. > > OTOH, I use mu4e, which means that (a) I store my emails locally, and > disk space is _not_ infinite, (b) I don't even use "folders" (mu4e is > search-based; of course, I _could_ filter out emacs-devel), and, most > importantly (c) I don't have time to study emacs-devel anyway, so why > should I nourish a hoarding disorder? There are various ways how people use email. Me I do not download Emacs development emails to my local computer. I read them on IMAP server by using Mutt client. Thus only headers are read, I can see subjects and decide if I wish to read specific email. I can mark threads of emails without downloading them and remove them, and focus on just few of my interest. Regarding mu4e, that is good to find emails, of course, especially when there is mailing list in question. In my work I deal mostly with people rather than with mailing lists, and in this case most important for me is our previous conversation, between various people and myself. Thus I am so much often first searching for conversation with person (list of related emails), and then maybe for some specific email. Thus I do use local Maildir folders. Each conversation is very easy to find, and I usually have it within a second and by single key press in Emacs. To ensure that conversation is easily found, when sending emails and receiving emails, they are all recorded in specific folder for that email address. That configuration serves as foundation to quickly finding all previous emails related to specific contact. For example, conversation for mbork@example.com would be saved in Maildir folder ~/Maildir/mbork@example.com and by searching for "borkowski" or by email address, I find your name, then I press "l" which is in vi world "left arrow", and stands on my side for "action" or "go right". Email conversation or list of emails is opened by using Mutt client (sometimes within vterm), though it could be possible in Emacs too, there is Maildir package. Then within the conversation I may look for particular terms or query it various ways. The above setup spares me of using mu tools to index emails and also tedious mu4e -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/