From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 15:43:09 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87ee3p4xn4.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tucl18rp.fsf@zoho.eu> <3cf3a903-10fb-76e4-24f8-d2e48d045f5c@rixotstudio.cz> <7f8b6dc4-a621-2ab4-86ab-79325a1f2a0c@yandex.ru> <95a64961-9a77-bd7a-a4c2-77ae3f9e5bb7@rixotstudio.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25216"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.0 (2022-02-12) Cc: Jacob Hrbek , emacs-tangents@gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 28 14:11:45 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nOfoW-0006NC-2I for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 14:11:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58378 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOfoU-0000XB-Mt for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 08:11:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57282) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOfnh-0000WA-Mv for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 08:10:54 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:43413) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOfng-0002wi-2C for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 08:10:53 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.82.153.31]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055D64.00000000621CC9D8.00003F55; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 06:10:48 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:784 Archived-At: * Yuri Khan [2022-02-28 15:13]: > Our [Russian] government does that kind of thing. “This web site here > has a page that contains banned information. Since TLS protects the > exact URL from being seen by the Internet provider, we’re going to > deny you access to the whole site. And if your provider cannot snoop > SNI, then they can deny you access by IP address, thus including all > other sites hosted on the same server.” Along the same lines: “KMnO4 > is useful as an antiseptic, but it also can be used to synthesize > narcotics or explosives, so no, you cannot buy it from your local > pharmacy.” Basically, prevention of activities that are declared > unlawful is considered a higher priority than keeping lawful use > possible, no matter the ratio of harm to usefulness. Hmm, yes. Though one can use proxies and VPN, right? -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/