From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:26:28 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87ee3p4xn4.fsf@zoho.eu> <6365757.nJ7RtekbVj@galex-713.eu> <87fso47mzt.fsf@yahoo.com> <5568043.OSE0SheIR2@galex-713.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38169"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.0 (2022-02-12) Cc: Po Lu , emacs-tangents@gnu.org To: Alexandre Garreau Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 28 12:28:13 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nOeCL-0009dd-Ca for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:28:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39552 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOeCK-00040v-1q for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 06:28:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53162) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOe7N-0000ra-4B for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 06:23:05 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:38449) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOe7K-0004wM-Qp for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 06:23:04 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.82.153.31]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000087EDC.00000000621CB095.00003264; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 04:23:00 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5568043.OSE0SheIR2@galex-713.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:778 Archived-At: * Alexandre Garreau [2022-02-27 12:26]: > Le dimanĉo, 27-a de februaro 2022, 9-a horo kaj 5:42 CET Po Lu a écrit : > > Alexandre Garreau writes: > > > So I propose to abandon the topic, unless some webmasters or > > > maintainers have desire to follow the consensual and comforting trend > > > of putting their flag anywhere in sign of support. That’d be in line > > > with our ideas of freedom. > > > > The GNU project doesn't have any political opinions aside from that of > > the free software movement. I hope that includes not taking sides on > > the conflict in the Ukraine, or otherwise I will not be able to continue > > working on Emacs. > > Why require so hardly such neutrality? I mean other projects did so by the past (like > supporting uyghurs or dunno, other geopolitical stuff) and that doesn’t stop from software > freedom or contribution… to me that’s alike people stating anything personal (like «i like > pasta», or dunno) or humor or what in projects: at least it makes it (nonpermanently) more > personal and identifiable, maybe it even can increases contribution. Imagine if humanitarian organizations such as red cross or Amnesty International would deny their help based on ethnicity or political opinions of people who need such help. FSF is non-profit organization and it has social purpose to help with free software. It does not take sides in politics of the world. Individual members may do so. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/