From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: 2021-05-03 Emacs news Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 08:54:02 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87pmy7qf2b.fsf@sachachua.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2178"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.6 (2021-03-06) Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org To: Ramesh Nedunchezian Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 06 07:58:40 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1leX20-0000RE-5J for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 07:58:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59490 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1leX1z-0006JU-8j for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 01:58:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40300) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1leX1o-0006J9-Vz for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 01:58:29 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:55401) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1leX1m-0001QG-UM for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 01:58:28 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.6.254]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000ABF23.000000006093857F.000035F8; Wed, 05 May 2021 22:58:22 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:636 Archived-At: * Ramesh Nedunchezian [2021-05-04 10:02]: > > Summary: Helm now has "official" info and html documents. > > Now the Helm documents are available in info format. The texi2html > pages are available on Helm's official website. > > https://emacs-helm.github.io/helm/doc/index.html > > The documentation is in Org format and TexInfo manuals are created > using ox-texinfo.el, so learning texinfo shouldn't be a barrier to > improving the current documentation. I like Helm and used it much. But then I realized I don't want programs be locked to Helm, so I have liberated them so that any kind of completion may be used. Documentation on that website starts with technical things, not so practical, that practical part is there but rather hidden, harder to find. Helm should start with simplest explanation including with the animation showing how it works. The actual start of programming with Helm is so much simpler than what is facing me as reader on that page. If any package is visual, that is Helm. It should speak visually to reader, instead of expectation that reader already knows everything about it. Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ https://rms-support-letter.github.io/