From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: elpa.git and `new-master` Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 17:40:23 +0300 Message-ID: References: <20201216064753.iy5hw63luyi5md6p@E15-2016.optimum.net> <87bletzxjv.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87v9d1n8y6.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17978"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Cc: Joost Kremers , emacs-tangents@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 16 15:46:07 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kpY47-0004W4-5V for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:46:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35700 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpY46-0001IO-1G for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:46:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57478) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpY3Q-0001Gi-SP for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:45:27 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:34841) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpY3L-0001bn-3q for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:45:20 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.58]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001E529.000000005FDA1D7B.00005B4A; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 07:45:15 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87v9d1n8y6.fsf@gnus.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: 29 X-Spam_score: 2.9 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam_report: (2.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:483 Archived-At: * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2020-12-16 17:05]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > git branch named "master" is not connected to any "slave" that I know > > neither in computing terminology neither in real world. > > This is a common claim, but it's incorrect: The term originated with > bitkeeper, which was what Torvalds used before he wrote git. > > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2019-May/msg00066.html > > Note that followups-are set to emacs-tangents. I see, that has master-slave connection in past at bitkeeper. Does it cost people when it gets renamed? Does it cause worldwide huge re-downloads when it gets renamed? And why remain to "main"? Maybe "mistress" would be more appropriate to some other political movement. ;-) Good to read here: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slave#English (engineering, computing, photography) A device (such as a secondary flash or hard drive) that is subject to the control of another (a master). Language is changing. That it reminds somebody of some ill times in past is matter of adaptation to new present time. Not everybody can adapt, and remains in past. But is good to accommodate those who do not want to use words in their proper meaning. You know I don't mind how is the original branch named, it could be mistress or something else, just that "main" is without any fun. Why not "love"? Then we can promote love in the git branch. That would be more hippy like and appropriate. Or better: makelovenowar -- I would say 100% for this. But "main", ah no fun there. Jokes aside, safe is safe, as somebody will come after me and stone me. How about "original"? How about "primary"? I just object that social justice warriors come to GNU project with their political ideas and not object for example at universities. Why not start at some prime examples? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master's_degree Little more irony: By the way GNU reminds me of a dirty abntelope over here in East Africa, running for life over Serengeti and dying in deep blood when eaten by crocodiles, I would rather like something less violent that does not promote violence like "GNU". Maybe it is something I cannot say? http://paulgraham.com/say.html