From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: crdt.el: proposal that server enforces the mode\ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 03:28:36 +0300 Message-ID: References: <20201018092201.GG9782@protected.rcdrun.com> <2F36D10F-A179-445D-9417-65194F1CF2F1@mit.edu> <241BE8A8-1CCE-403F-B9D8-41B01DD1967D@mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38612"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/+ (1036f0e) (2020-10-18) Cc: "emacs-tangents@gnu.org" To: Qiantan Hong Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 22 02:29:17 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kVOTl-0009wW-Ae for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 02:29:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40390 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVOTj-0003Uw-Kj for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2020 20:29:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53824) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVOTP-0003Ss-Fx for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2020 20:28:56 -0400 Original-Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:48453) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVOTN-0006g8-7z for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2020 20:28:55 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.51]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002A0B42.000000005F90D242.00007B17; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 00:28:49 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/21 17:52:21 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:419 Archived-At: * Qiantan Hong [2020-10-22 03:17]: > So in this occasion particularly, I’m asking whether should the server > decide exclusively what minor-mode to enable, or values of buffer local variables, > or any client can change it? You have to select what would be set by server only and that list of variables should be later explained in the info file or README. It should not be general, it could make anything insecure or weird if you make it general. In my opinion those variables dictated by server should be in the customization group, so that user can remove the variable or set it. If client can change it, it makes no much sense really, not to me, but it may make sense to somebody. If I use ses-mode, I need spreadsheet and not damages. > However, (although I don’t like it very much), I think one can argue that giving > server exclusive write permission avoid communicational conflicts or even chaos. > What do you think? Server need not be necessarily manager or leader of the team, but leader will like to decide upon those variables to be set by the server. Thus my opinion is that customization group should be there where server's user can set it up on what to be dictated by the server, for example modes, variables, etc.