From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 23:23:18 +0300 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15993"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Cc: ams@gnu.org, emacs-tangents@gnu.org, Richard Stallman , arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 07 22:01:28 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kxcPP-00042w-Sh for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 22:01:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35952 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxcPO-0006f6-Up for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 16:01:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49854) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxbog-0001wa-Tr for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:23:30 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:33879) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxboe-000413-Ug; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:23:30 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.210.145.49]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000295453.000000005FF76DBD.0000175F; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 13:23:24 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:498 Archived-At: * Ulrich Mueller [2021-01-07 22:38]: > Gentoo is about choice, and has always leaned a little on the pragmatic > side. If we would (for example) exclude all non-free Linux firmware, > then I am certain that in order to have a usable system, most users > would choose to install such firmware nevertheless, bypassing the > package manager. Again, our default there is to install only free > firmware, but we leave users the choice to install additional blobs when > they explicitly ask for it. Then maybe that is how users are trained or indoctrinated into Gentoo as managers or maintainers of Gentoo did not teach users about free software. I am sorry for that. That is why Gentoo will not be endorsed by GNU project. I am using mostly Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre now and I have no problems installing it on plethora of computers. I may use Trisquel or other FSF endorsed fully free GNU/Linux distribution. Not that I use any firmware and it is true that maybe some wireless chip does not work, but hey, it does not matter as we all have Internet here. I have connected Internet by mobile phone and USB tethering method to one computer that serves as router to switch that connects other computers. It works well in a team. > > Then please raise the bug issue. I myself do not have enough > > information on who is doing what there. If you know, raise the issue. > > As a matter of fact, I had reported this in 2019 to the maintainer > listed at https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Intlfonts#tab=Details but > nothing has happened since then. Even worse, the directory lists the > package as GPLv2orlater (and it says verified in 2001) while AFAICS it > doesn't contain a single GPL licensed file. How about nudging again? Jean