From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: Help building Pen.el (GPT for emacs) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 21:14:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83im1948mj.fsf@gnu.org> <83lf642jeh.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1fp1es9.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38898"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, eliz@gnu.org, mullikine@gmail.com, emacs-tangents@gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 24 03:14:35 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m76FP-0009vF-CV for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 03:14:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55722 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m76FN-00073g-GV for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 21:14:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51036) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m76FF-00073Y-03 for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 21:14:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m76FE-00022G-8w; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 21:14:24 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m76FD-0001jm-B9; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 21:14:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Fri, 23 Jul 2021 14:32:00 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:671 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > That's not what happens with these services: they don't _copy_ code > > from other software (that won't work, because the probability of the > > variables being called by other names is 100%, and thus such code, if > > pasted into your program, will not compile). What they do, they > > extract ideas and algorithms from those other places, and express them > > in terms of your variables and your data types. So licenses are not > > relevant here. > According to online reviews chunks of code is copied even verbatim and > people find from where. Even if modified, it still requires licensing > compliance. >From what I have read, it seems that the behavior of copilot runs on a spectrum from the first description to the second description. I expect that in many cases, nothing copyrightable has been copied, but in some cases copilot does copy a substantial amount from a copyrighted work. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)