From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 01:04:15 -0500 Message-ID: <E1kyTpn-0005oG-Rw@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <6193374b-a60d-ba82-91b5-afdede18e3bb@yandex.ru> <E1kwR0x-00068k-C8@fencepost.gnu.org> <72871d3a-3b6a-d6fd-01cc-4248f817923c@yandex.ru> <E1kwSj6-0002lK-Gu@fencepost.gnu.org> <801f93f3-8c1f-5f5f-6351-e1169bc309ae@yandex.ru> <E1kx0xW-0003Vg-Ou@fencepost.gnu.org> <X/XMDBy8d7uMlLOJ@protected.rcdrun.com> <AM0PR06MB65775F1FEA1964F330B4A79D96D00@AM0PR06MB6577.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> <X/XVYH61dsuJ9f+I@protected.rcdrun.com> <AM0PR06MB6577B144C9C2F71A8704BAE496D00@AM0PR06MB6577.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> <X/YHE8U7OwDHj2Ot@protected.rcdrun.com> <83k0sp27f6.fsf@gnu.org> <E1kxGCp-0006oD-PA@fencepost.gnu.org> <23f3f74f-c3d3-ec74-f1da-d0416d026c0d@yandex.ru> <E1kxGuO-00079C-NR@fencepost.gnu.org> <b94804db-7140-d450-6fc2-5afa440a8736@yandex.ru> <E1kxZru-0007Cl-DD@fencepost.gnu.org> <834kjslexq.fsf@gnu.org> <E1kxcV3-0005Rt-7a@fencepost.gnu.org> <83pn2fkiv5.fsf@gnu.org> <26475995-EEB8-4B71-8B06-A7B7B4C8A737@gnu.support> <834kjrk3ox.fsf@gnu.org> <BDA03918-CAB9-444E-9A99-AE101F02DD7B@gnu.support> <83y2h3ij23.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37369"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, ulm@gentoo.org, ams@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 10 07:04:38 2021 Return-path: <emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org>) id 1kyTqA-0009b7-3c for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 07:04:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59460 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org>) id 1kyTq9-0001vO-4f for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 01:04:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56240) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <rms@gnu.org>) id 1kyTpv-0001vI-1T for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 01:04:23 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43930) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <rms@gnu.org>) id 1kyTpq-0003jT-Dq; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 01:04:18 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <rms@gnu.org>) id 1kyTpn-0005oG-Rw; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 01:04:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83y2h3ij23.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 08 Jan 2021 16:45:24 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists <emacs-tangents.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/emacs-tangents>, <mailto:emacs-tangents-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-tangents> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-tangents@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-tangents-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-tangents>, <mailto:emacs-tangents-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" <emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:556 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.tangents/556> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Thus, whether I personally can access that site is immaterial. I > don't need your, or anybody's, permission to do whatever I want with > my systems. I think we all agree on that. > Refusal to make this, or any other package that has the > similar audacity of showing information about software in a completely > neutral way, to be available from GNU ELPA diminishes from the > community, and thus hurts me in my effort to help the community > members to enjoy software freedom. That is a different issue -- related by different. It raises other ethical issues that do not arise in anyone's personal activities. There are many reasons we might not put a package into GNU ELPA even though it is sometimes useful for people. I will write to you about this privately on Monday. Tomorrow I have an all-day meeting. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)