From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el] Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:41:17 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87wnwn9r2l.fsf@gkayaalp.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7793"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, ulm@gentoo.org, ams@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, eliz@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F?= Kayaalp Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 09 07:42:00 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ky7wl-0001v1-L6 for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 07:41:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45706 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ky7wk-0000bs-IQ for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:41:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58120) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ky7w9-0000bH-Du for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:41:21 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54950) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ky7w8-00051e-Uk; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:41:20 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ky7w5-0006G9-HB; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:41:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87wnwn9r2l.fsf@gkayaalp.com> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?G?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F?= Kayaalp on Fri, 08 Jan 2021 22:17:06 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:541 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > No. If you have to use Zoom for your classes or meetings, you have to. > If you need to use WhatsApp, you have to. Not necessarily. I know people who have pressured/convinced institutions such as schools to let them use free software instead. It is not easy, and only a fraction succeed -- but that is better than zero chance. Pkease do not exaggerate hopelessness. You are aware of many forms of mistreatment of disprivileged groups. Usually there are campaigns to end those patterns of mistreatment. Society is starting to become aware of them. Nonfree software is an injustice too. Escaping it is not easy -- but our work is to make it easier and encourage people to escape. Hardly anyone recognizes this injustice, so one of our priorities is making people notice. Every time I mention that I refuse to use Zoom or WhatsApp, it is a chance to make people aware of the issue, and that is progress. > If you make it hard to use non-free software one _has_ to use with free > software they _want_ to use, this is effectively a discriminatory, > exclusionary, and unegalitarian practice. We never _make_ our programs not run on nonfree systems. You're attacking a straw man. Perhaps you've misunderstood what our practices are. We make our programs work with free software because that's what we want. If you want to change them to interoperate with some nonfree program or system, you are free to do that. We might even help maintain your changes, if they are easy to merge in. But we always give priority to using software in the Free World, on GNU. The last part of your message seems to be a lot of vituperation. If you have such a low opinion of our efforts, nobody insists you have to participate. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)