From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el] Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:40:30 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87zh1jag72.fsf@gkayaalp.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3836"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, ulm@gentoo.org, ams@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, self@gkayaalp.com, eliz@gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 09 07:40:54 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ky7vi-0000tX-75 for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 07:40:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43636 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ky7vh-00088Q-93 for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:40:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57924) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ky7vM-00084R-VP for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:40:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54917) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ky7vM-0004Z4-MY; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:40:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ky7vK-00068t-GT; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:40:30 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Fri, 08 Jan 2021 11:46:02 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:540 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > >Free software is a privilege, as it is. It requires a lot of knowledge > >about computing praxis and culture, internet culture, legal stuff, and > >politics. > How privilege? I don't see how is free software privilege. Not for > me. It should be basic human right for users to have control of > their data, and not to let other companies or individuals control > my data. This looks like a miscommnuication to me. I think that what you are arguing against may not be what Göktuğ meant. > >Most software, > >and > >most of popular software is closed source. > I did not count to say so. But what is popular it does not matter > in GNU project, what matters is that we do have fully free > software and operating systems. What I see here is a disagreement about basic premises -- goals and values. I think you recognize that disagreement but Göktuğ doesn't yet. Göktuğ, I suggest reading ttps://gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html to see what our goals and values are. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)