From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sacha Chua Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: 2022-08-08 Emacs news Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2022 15:59:12 -0400 Message-ID: <87zggecxrj.fsf@sachachua.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8693"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-tangents@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:xGZ2b6LlUJ1JF11N9kI6Emm2JRE= Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 08 22:00:24 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oL8vI-0001tx-IU for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2022 22:00:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35436 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oL8vH-0003Vt-5i for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2022 16:00:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41508) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oL8uR-0003Uw-N1 for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2022 15:59:33 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:47444) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oL8uM-0004tT-RW for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2022 15:59:30 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oL8uG-0000Ov-Iy for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2022 21:59:20 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:898 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="==-=-=" --==-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 2022-08-08 Emacs news ===================== - Upcoming events: - Atelier Emacs Montpellier (in person) Fri Aug 12 0900 Vancouver / 1100 Chicago / 1200 Toronto / 1600 GMT / 1800 Berlin / 2130 Kolkata -- Sat Aug 13 0000 Singapore - Beginner: - [introducción a EMACS (Tutorial)] () (15:00) - Emacs configuration: - [Need to block distractions (like email, RSS, etc)? Announcing time-block-command, a configurable command blocker using block groups.] () ([Reddit] ()) - [Emacs Which Key Is A Damn Good Package To Have 2022_08_08_03:44:58] () (10:27) - Evil mode: - [FrostyX: Emacs - Evil :set option] () - Emacs Lisp: - [Evaluating Elisp in Emacs] () ([Reddit] (), [Irreal] ()) - [Cycle data structure exposing mutable and (coming soon!) immutable APIs.] () ([Reddit] ()) - [emacs regular expression, and in emacs lisp] () (01:02:00) - Appearance: - [vanish.el: hide parts of a buffer] () ([Reddit] ()) - [Minibuffer header line] () ([Reddit] ()) - [GitHub - codemicmaves/graphite-theme] () ([Reddit] ()) - [Protesilaos Stavrou: Modus themes 2.5.0 for GNU Emacs] () - [Protesilaos Stavrou: The case of git-gutter, the modus-themes, and Doom Emacs] () - [Org-mode - Emacs customize face to change background colour] () (07:14) - Navigation: - [TAONAW - Emacs: Of Grep and Finding Stuff] () - [Manuel Uberti: Ugrep in Emacs] () - [How to query-replace multiple matches!] () - Org Mode: - [John D. Cook: Org-mode as a lightweight notebook] () ([Irreal] ()) - [John D. Cook: Inline computed content in org-mode] () - [Org-mode: A multi page index via org-publish's sitemap] () ([Reddit] ()) - [Emacs Notes: Create an `Excel' / `LibreOffice Calc' from an `Org' spreadsheet] () - [org-roam-logseq.el - converter for logseq files stored in org-roam] () ([Reddit] ()) - [Module flags for org mode in Doom Emacs] () - Org development: - [Support interactive editing of comment blocks] () - [lisp/ob-plantuml.el: Insert results in buffer] () - [ol.el: add description format parameter to org-link-parameters] () - Completion: - [jao: inline snippets and grouping in consult-recoll] () - Coding: - [wisp: Whitespace to Lisp] () ([lobste.rs] ()) - [sexpc - convert a sexp into C syntax] () ([lobste.rs] ()) - Math: - [John D. Cook: Naming probability functions] () - lower tail probability, upper tail probability - Community: - [Weekly Tips, Tricks, &c. 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And since then already how long?] () ([lemmy] ()) - [Eric MacAdie: 2022-08 Austin Emacs Meetup] () - [Emacs Timeline] () (2007; [HN] (), old thread on [Reddit] ()) - [EMACS Manual for ITS Users] () (1981, [HN] ()) - Other: - [[RFC] send-notification: one-function library to send desktop notifications on any platform; comes with a minor mode to notify if a Magit command fails in background] () ([Reddit] ()) - [A transient menu for `lp` for easier printing from Emacs] () ([Reddit] ()) - [Basic WYSIWYG printing in GNU Emacs] () ([Reddit] ()) - ps-print-buffer-with-faces - [Deleting files in Emacs [OC]​] () ([Reddit] ()) - deleting visited file - [Emacs Multithreading: How Hard Could It Be?] () (04:13) - [GitHub - SavchenkoValeriy/emacs-swift-module: Write Emacs packages in Swift!] () ([Reddit] ()) - [Emacs gui from a tty!] () - [Emacs freebie: macOS emoji picker] () ([Reddit] ()) - [John Herrlin: Emacs on Macos Monterey] () - Emacs development: - [emacs-devel: long lines, widening, and font-locking performance] () - [Add NEWS note about interactive-args] () - [Fix namespacing problem in allout.el] () - [Add STREAM argument to 'process-tty-name'] () - [Allow creating processes where only one of stdin or stdout is a PTY] () - [time-convert): Deprecate calls without an explicit FORM arg] () - [Add obsolete-since header to netrc.el] () - [Add obsolete-since line to autoload.el and adjust comments] () - [; * etc/NEWS: Announce obsoletion of url-about.el.] () - [Teach 'symbol-file' about .eln natively-compiled files] () - [Delete obsolete variable nntp-authinfo-file] () - [Remove duplicate key definitions from keymaps] () - [Delete function alias x-selection obsolete since 23.3] () - [Make url-dired.el obsolete (part 2/2)] () - [Wrap around the search on typing a letter (bug#56535)] () - [Fix the bytecode incompatibility due to the change to 'narrow-to-region'.] () - New packages: - hammy : Programmable, interactive interval timers (MELPA) - i3bar : Display status from an i3status command in the tab bar (MELPA) - minibuffer-header : Minibuffer header line (GNU ELPA) - obsidian : Obsidian Notes interface (MELPA) - perl-doc : Read Perl documentation (GNU ELPA) - websearch : Query search engines (MELPA) Links from [reddit.com/r/emacs] (), [r/orgmode] (), [r/spacemacs] (), [r/planetemacs] (), [Hacker News] (), [lobste.rs] (), [planet.emacslife.com] (), [YouTube] (), [the Emacs NEWS file] (), [Emacs Calendar] (), [emacs-devel] (), and [lemmy/c/emacs] (). 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--==-=-=-- --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-org; charset=utf-8; name=emacs-news.org Content-Disposition: attachment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit * 2022-08-08 Emacs news - Upcoming events: - Atelier Emacs Montpellier (in person) https://lebib.org/date/atelier-emacs Fri Aug 12 0900 Vancouver / 1100 Chicago / 1200 Toronto / 1600 GMT / 1800 Berlin / 2130 Kolkata -- Sat Aug 13 0000 Singapore - Beginner: - [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n15j9a_h_f0][introducción a EMACS (Tutorial)]] (15:00) - Emacs configuration: - [[https://git.sr.ht/~swflint/time-block-command][Need to block distractions (like email, RSS, etc)? Announcing time-block-command, a configurable command blocker using block groups.]] ([[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/whtths/need_to_block_distractions_like_email_rss_etc/][Reddit]]) - [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDy1gQOHyhs][Emacs Which Key Is A Damn Good Package To Have 2022_08_08_03:44:58]] (10:27) - Evil mode: - [[http://frostyx.cz/posts/emacs-evil-set-option][FrostyX: Emacs - Evil :set option]] - Emacs Lisp: - [[https://www.masteringemacs.org/article/evaluating-elisp-emacs][Evaluating Elisp in Emacs]] ([[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/wel19m/evaluating_elisp_in_emacs/][Reddit]], [[https://irreal.org/blog/?p=10716][Irreal]]) - [[https://github.com/wpcarro/cycle.el][Cycle data structure exposing mutable and (coming soon!) immutable APIs.]] ([[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/wfhar2/cycle_data_structure_exposing_mutable_and_coming/][Reddit]]) - [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBGvGFmo1ps][emacs regular expression, and in emacs lisp]] (01:02:00) - Appearance: - [[https://github.com/thezeroalpha/vanish.el][vanish.el: hide parts of a buffer]] ([[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/whwiuz/vanishel_hide_parts_of_a_buffer/][Reddit]]) - [[https://i.redd.it/b1pu8hb4x1g91.png][Minibuffer header line]] ([[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/whj385/minibuffer_header_line/][Reddit]]) - [[https://github.com/codemicmaves/graphite-theme][GitHub - codemicmaves/graphite-theme]] ([[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/wgwmsj/graphite_emacs_theme/][Reddit]]) - [[https://protesilaos.com/codelog/2022-08-03-modus-themes-2-5-0/][Protesilaos Stavrou: Modus themes 2.5.0 for GNU Emacs]] - [[https://protesilaos.com/codelog/2022-08-04-doom-git-gutter-modus-themes/][Protesilaos Stavrou: The case of git-gutter, the modus-themes, and Doom Emacs]] - [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D92eX68kxjQ][Org-mode - Emacs customize face to change background colour]] (07:14) - Navigation: - [[https://taonaw.com/2022-08-03/][TAONAW - Emacs: Of Grep and Finding Stuff]] - [[https://manueluberti.eu//emacs/2022/08/07/emacs-ugrep/][Manuel Uberti: Ugrep in Emacs]] - [[https://tony-zorman.com/posts/query-replace/2022-08-06-query-replace-many.html][How to query-replace multiple matches!]] - Org Mode: - [[https://www.johndcook.com/blog/2022/08/02/org-babel-vs-jupyter/][John D. Cook: Org-mode as a lightweight notebook]] ([[https://irreal.org/blog/?p=10720][Irreal]]) - [[https://www.johndcook.com/blog/2022/08/03/inline-org-babel/][John D. Cook: Inline computed content in org-mode]] - [[https://www.mattplm.fr/static/multi_file_sitemap_experiment/index.html][Org-mode: A multi page index via org-publish's sitemap]] ([[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/whi7wy/orgmode_a_multi_page_index_via_orgpublishs_sitemap/][Reddit]]) - [[https://emacsnotes.wordpress.com/2022/08/04/create-an-excel-libreoffice-calc-spreadsheet-from-an-org-spreadsheet/][Emacs Notes: Create an `Excel' / `LibreOffice Calc' from an `Org' spreadsheet]] - [[https://gist.github.com/zot/ddf1a89a567fea73bc3c8a209d48f527][org-roam-logseq.el - converter for logseq files stored in org-roam]] ([[https://www.reddit.com/r/orgmode/comments/wgemu9/converter_for_logseq_files_stored_in_orgroam/][Reddit]]) - [[https://www.reddit.com/r/orgmode/comments/whney4/module_flags_for_org_mode_in_doom_emacs/][Module flags for org mode in Doom Emacs]] - Org development: - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/etc/ORG-NEWS?id=a303a794f8c6f880aa8dc46f10179890bfd27423][Support interactive editing of comment blocks]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/etc/ORG-NEWS?id=9cc60dee48851756dd95af46b37b7adc172952e2][lisp/ob-plantuml.el: Insert results in buffer]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/etc/ORG-NEWS?id=e3a05d09b7398b46e8ef724ae7609eeb8a35346e][ol.el: add description format parameter to org-link-parameters]] - Completion: - [[https://jao.io/blog/2022-08-04-inline-snippets-and-grouping-in-consult-recoll.html][jao: inline snippets and grouping in consult-recoll]] - Coding: - [[https://www.draketo.de/software/wisp][wisp: Whitespace to Lisp]] ([[https://lobste.rs/s/lvcskk/wisp_whitespace_lisp_alternate_lisp][lobste.rs]]) - [[https://idiomdrottning.org/sexpc][sexpc - convert a sexp into C syntax]] ([[https://lobste.rs/s/mfdofb/sexpc_c_as_s_expressions][lobste.rs]]) - Math: - [[https://www.johndcook.com/blog/2022/08/05/cdf/][John D. Cook: Naming probability functions]] - lower tail probability, upper tail probability - Community: - [[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/wf0t0d/weekly_tips_tricks_c_thread/][Weekly Tips, Tricks, &c. Thread]] - [[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/wf4u1r/what_primary_tasks_do_you_use_emacs_for_how_were/][What primary task(s) do you use emacs for? How were you introduced to using emacs? And since then already how long?]] ([[https://lemmy.ml/post/404056][lemmy]]) - [[https://macadie.info/2022/08/05/2022-08-austin-emacs-meetup/][Eric MacAdie: 2022-08 Austin Emacs Meetup]] - [[https://www.jwz.org/doc/emacs-timeline.html][Emacs Timeline]] (2007; [[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32294737][HN]], old thread on [[https://reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/f1twlg/emacs_timeline/][Reddit]]) - [[https://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/6329][EMACS Manual for ITS Users]] (1981, [[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32374981][HN]]) - Other: - [[https://github.com/kisaragi-hiu/send-notification][[RFC] send-notification: one-function library to send desktop notifications on any platform; comes with a minor mode to notify if a Magit command fails in background]] ([[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/wigxij/rfc_sendnotification_onefunction_library_to_send/][Reddit]]) - [[https://github.com/haji-ali/lp-transient][A transient menu for `lp` for easier printing from Emacs]] ([[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/wg7pq9/a_transient_menu_for_lp_for_easier_printing_from/][Reddit]]) - [[https://lifeofpenguin.blogspot.com/2021/06/basic-wysiwyg-printing-in-gnu-emacs.html][Basic WYSIWYG printing in GNU Emacs]] ([[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/wf9h0z/basic_wysiwyg_printing_in_gnu_emacs_jpg_to_pdf/][Reddit]]) - ps-print-buffer-with-faces - [[https://zck.org/deleting-files-in-emacs][Deleting files in Emacs [OC]​]] ([[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/weuiqs/deleting_files_in_emacs_oc/][Reddit]]) - deleting visited file - [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H1Pe9HkJ7I][Emacs Multithreading: How Hard Could It Be?]] (04:13) - [[https://github.com/SavchenkoValeriy/emacs-swift-module][GitHub - SavchenkoValeriy/emacs-swift-module: Write Emacs packages in Swift!]] ([[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/wemj1z/writing_emacs_dynamic_modules_in_swift/][Reddit]]) - [[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/wg9lah/emacs_gui_from_a_tty/][Emacs gui from a tty!]] - [[https://v.redd.it/nppykdnflkf91][Emacs freebie: macOS emoji picker]] ([[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/wfja3n/emacs_freebie_macos_emoji_picker/][Reddit]]) - [[https://jherrlin.github.io/posts/emacs-on-macos-monterey/][John Herrlin: Emacs on Macos Monterey]] - Emacs development: - [[https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2022-08/msg00130.html][emacs-devel: long lines, widening, and font-locking performance]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=27599d8df838569e223bc8be4fb7c40cd75c1847][Add NEWS note about interactive-args]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=7c8332e096ab92546db38ae27b582971b26cfdfd][Fix namespacing problem in allout.el]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=4e59830bc0ab17cdbd85748b133c97837bed99e3][Add STREAM argument to 'process-tty-name']] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=d7b89ea4077d4fe677ba0577245328819ee79cdc][Allow creating processes where only one of stdin or stdout is a PTY]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=b70369c557efed3dcd86dc64a2e73e3480dea6af][time-convert): Deprecate calls without an explicit FORM arg]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=8810330f30ca1b251534106f9de7d5190c0cf633][Add obsolete-since header to netrc.el]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=22a2ad13f50f4a5f8e28ce93730d665a33964b80][Add obsolete-since line to autoload.el and adjust comments]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=f325b091c1589ec67347ac1ba82a1f82a7596093][; * etc/NEWS: Announce obsoletion of url-about.el.]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=ec22e923c0dab286cdcf18595e836f1013e9a9f1][Teach 'symbol-file' about .eln natively-compiled files]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=409b581b09e35e65a1cfee87968c2713e2d3b970][Delete obsolete variable nntp-authinfo-file]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=e5e840168c039f3daf9cce05e0b8ac4c49a450ec][Remove duplicate key definitions from keymaps]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=bd50df1efdb686ee22f4ec591839be3f3b21dd17][Delete function alias x-selection obsolete since 23.3]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=632b74efa3523683596a8efbc854824dc819bebf][Make url-dired.el obsolete (part 2/2)]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=7320a812e9e0624480406309a3cad18db38ff87a][Wrap around the search on typing a letter (bug#56535)]] - [[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=9d8a6c82838f2f24e76a67379b02956aa668d7cf][Fix the bytecode incompatibility due to the change to 'narrow-to-region'.]] - New packages: - https://melpa.org/#/hammy: Programmable, interactive interval timers (MELPA) - https://melpa.org/#/i3bar: Display status from an i3status command in the tab bar (MELPA) - https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/minibuffer-header.html: Minibuffer header line (GNU ELPA) - https://melpa.org/#/obsidian: Obsidian Notes interface (MELPA) - https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/perl-doc.html: Read Perl documentation (GNU ELPA) - https://melpa.org/#/websearch: Query search engines (MELPA) Links from [[https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs][reddit.com/r/emacs]], [[https://www.reddit.com/r/orgmode][r/orgmode]], [[https://www.reddit.com/r/spacemacs][r/spacemacs]], [[https://www.reddit.com/r/planetemacs][r/planetemacs]], [[https://hn.algolia.com/?query=emacs&sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=story][Hacker News]], [[https://lobste.rs/search?q=emacs&what=stories&order=newest][lobste.rs]], [[https://planet.emacslife.com][planet.emacslife.com]], [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4th0AZixyREOtvxDpdxC9oMuX7Ar7Sdt][YouTube]], [[http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/log/etc/NEWS][the Emacs NEWS file]], [[https://emacslife.com/calendar/][Emacs Calendar]], [[http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2022-08][emacs-devel]], and [[https://lemmy.ml/c/emacs][lemmy/c/emac s]]. 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