From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: A Zine/Newsletter for ELPA Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 14:07:13 +0000 Message-ID: <87sfdv4l4e.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87mt9y6rdt.fsf@posteo.net> <87lejpnal7.fsf@posteo.net> <87edph5fmp.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11765"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org To: orzodk Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 23 15:07:41 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pfLbO-0002iM-4Q for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 15:07:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pfLb8-0002qL-OY; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 10:07:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pfLb6-0002q6-6i for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 10:07:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pfLb3-0002Gm-Me for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 10:07:19 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 365DE240758 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 15:07:14 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1679580434; bh=0+j9YBXrxHPfr8sS38ws6bVgG3cJZS7Hnp/jsgArzMQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:From; b=IJyS8DUkUlkT1aORT0bqpk5jj2lHXcisWJFOKzGqI6nTPoNBgKJimdMGxtx+xaG95 5YP29Gth5RfHLWqfq8SkpF1ZZ6Nw29vv7n1UqFwBFot9e+HAx1tmBlpC1ftZOgA6HB 1yR6zs4oh8hyRLDAV/zkjtr9W0U1KiXdK5LgZhEGODLqFk9hGWHMvNdfwmMRNANTIV iJEZt6PAW/RYWiXvae+oyUX+Pk6qnh7YpUY3VJzlnsPI035cv2lL3UaIX/wN3XmOr2 Rk+ZA4QehEHux0hj53iEHwildCi2pyjpMrKqAt1IDcLQeYW0/BAc/E8nMWG44RsWoz OBJN5lamyOVvg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Pj6bj3Rkcz6tsB; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 15:07:13 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (orzodk@fastmail.com's message of "Wed, 22 Mar 2023 10:33:55 -0600") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:1007 Archived-At: orzodk writes: > Philip Kaludercic writes: > >> orzodk writes: >> >>> Philip Kaludercic writes: >>> >>> As far as scope goes I think it wouldn't be too hard scrape the >>> Gnu/NonGnu package pages then compare what's changed since the last >>> newsletter. There was even a blog post about scraping with org-mode[1] a >>> few days ago (via irreal). (The frequency of the newsletter seems best >>> based on how often interesting changes land in these packages.) >> >> There wouldn't be any need to take that route, all the new packages are >> documented in their respective repositories: >> >> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/log/?qt=grep&q=New >> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/nongnu.git/log/?qt=grep&q=New >> >>> So I think what you're asking is if there is interest in the >>> review/commentary aspect of the newsletter? I'd be interested in >>> following along on SourceHut (as I'm sure other fellow lurkers would be) >>> but I can't say that I have any great insight to contribute. If it's >>> just helping groking the CHANGELOG since the last version that's >>> something I'm more capable of. >> >> I don't think there are going to be great insights going on here. My >> plan would be to start a mailing list that contributors could sign up >> onto, where new packages would be announced, and people could respond >> with their comments, however brief or detailed, perhaps even in whatever >> format (org, markdown, blog posts, video, etc.). These would then be >> collected into a article. > > Ah, understood. I have created a mailing list here: https://lists.sr.ht/~pkal/elpa-zine (~pkal/elpa-zine@lists.sr.ht) for anyone interested. >>> As another note: Emanuel mentioned an Emacs newsletter would be an >>> interseting idea as well but scope was a concern[2]. As a way to boot >>> strap this whole process it might be worth while approaching some of the >>> bloggers in the community to see if they'd be interested in writing >>> "guest posts" or even giving you permission to "cross post" some of >>> their older articles. >> >> Hmm, do you have any concrete people in mind? > > I don't know either of these people but I enjoy Mickey Peterson's > Mastering Emacs (https://www.masteringemacs.org/all-articles) and Vernon > Grant's Discovering Emacs podcast. > (https://github.com/VernonGrant/discovering-emacs/tree/main/show-notes) Hmm, I don't know if that would help reach a wider audience than just going through planet emacslife would to begin with. But it is something that can be kept in mind. -- Philip Kaludercic